I Knew Better...

[jdeaux]

I had every intention of being 100% truthful and 100% legit when I went into the recruiter's office the first time. I even told them that directly. I did NOT want to lie about anything. But, I was told that "that doesn't count, so say no" about a few things. I did what I was told, and answered no at MEPS. And now it's eating me up.

Here's what I was told wasn't important enough to list:

When I was 14, I had a "school permit" that allowed me to drive from home to school, directly. I was caught off of the path, and my school permit was taken away. I had no problems getting my driver's license when I turned 16.
I've had four speeding tickets between now and when I was 16 (six years' time). The first two I paid through mail. The third was in a state I didn't live in, and I didn't pay through the mail and was out of state for the court date. I was never told or received any mail or anything about the ticket and never had, to the best of my knowledge, a warrant in my name. I paid the ticket some time after the court date over the phone, and they took the payment no problem. All three of those tickets were more than three years ago. The fourth ticket got in 2008, and went "to court" recently, but it was dismissed.
I broke my foot when I was 13, and had surgery on it. It quickly recovered to 100% and I've never any problems since (and i hike, rock climb, sky dive, exercise, and play sports).


I've never been arrested, never been detained, never had a warrant for my arrest (that I am aware of, it's possible there might have been a bench warrant for that ticket that was out of state) and so on. I did disclose another medical issue that could have possibly stopped my recruitment, and was granted a waiver.

I have signed my contract, and I have sworn in, but I haven't shipped to BCT yet. I think I'm technically in DEP until I ship.

I have a job that will require a "secret" clearance. How does this change things?

What do I do? I HATE this feeling I have because I didn't disclose those things. Please, I need some advice.

If your advice is something you don't think should be publicly viewable to potential recruitrs or for any other reason, PLEASE pm it to me. I don't know what to do. I just want to serve my country.

[mel44]

I had every intention of being 100% truthful and 100% legit when I went into the recruiter's office the first time. I even told them that directly. I did NOT want to lie about anything. But, I was told that "that doesn't count, so say no" about a few things. I did what I was told, and answered no at MEPS. And now it's eating me up.

Here's what I was told wasn't important enough to list:

When I was 14, I had a "school permit" that allowed me to drive from home to school, directly. I was caught off of the path, and my school permit was taken away. I had no problems getting my driver's license when I turned 16.
I've had four speeding tickets between now and when I was 16 (six years' time). The first two I paid through mail. The third was in a state I didn't live in, and I didn't pay through the mail and was out of state for the court date. I was never told or received any mail or anything about the ticket and never had, to the best of my knowledge, a warrant in my name. I paid the ticket some time after the court date over the phone, and they took the payment no problem. All three of those tickets were more than three years ago. The fourth ticket got in 2008, and went "to court" recently, but it was dismissed.
I broke my foot when I was 13, and had surgery on it. It quickly recovered to 100% and I've never any problems since (and i hike, rock climb, sky dive, exercise, and play sports).


I've never been arrested, never been detained, never had a warrant for my arrest (that I am aware of, it's possible there might have been a bench warrant for that ticket that was out of state) and so on. I did disclose another medical issue that could have possibly stopped my recruitment, and was granted a waiver.

I have signed my contract, and I have sworn in, but I haven't shipped to BCT yet. I think I'm technically in DEP until I ship.

I have a job that will require a "secret" clearance. How does this change things?

What do I do? I HATE this feeling I have because I didn't disclose those things. Please, I need some advice.

If your advice is something you don't think should be publicly viewable to potential recruitrs or for any other reason, PLEASE pm it to me. I don't know what to do. I just want to serve my country.

Honey settle down your stressing way to much. Your recruiter has already run a background.

I had this cousin that really worked hard to get to a position as a checker at the grocery store. He was a Soph in high school and it was a really good job for his age. the only thing he had to d was pass a lie detector test. He stressed and stressed and by the time they did the test he was a wreck and when they asked him if he ever stole from the store before all he could think of was the grapes in the veggie dept. He failed the test and is now a Baptist preacher. Moral of the story if you don’t want to end up a Baptist preacher relax. They have already done your background and if you haven’t killed anyone and hid it your ok. They are not looking for traffic tickets.

Don’t you ever tell another soul about your foot. EVER!

[USMC_8156]

Relax. None of those things matter. Your recruiter knows that if he were to tell you not to mention something, and you did, he would end up getting torn apart for it. Recruiters lie, but not about things that will get them in trouble.

All of that stuff is inconsequential, and won't affect your clearance.

[jdeaux]

Thanks for the replies. I appreciate it.

I know that once MEPS took me, I'm pretty safe, but my main concern is with security clearances. I have to have a "SECRET", but it's possible that one day I might have to have "TOP SECRET" clearance. What happens if they talk to someone I know and that person mentions some of the above items. I'd hate to get my clearance denied, and would hate even more to be discharged.

Thoughts?

[sigecaps]

Thanks for the replies. I appreciate it.

I know that once MEPS took me, I'm pretty safe, but my main concern is with security clearances. I have to have a "SECRET", but it's possible that one day I might have to have "TOP SECRET" clearance. What happens if they talk to someone I know and that person mentions some of the above items. I'd hate to get my clearance denied, and would hate even more to be discharged.

Thoughts?

I'm holding a copy of my SF-86 (the document that OPM creates when they have adjudicated your clearance). The only question pertaining to medical that they ask is "In the last 7 years, have you consulted a mental health professional (psychiatrist, psychologist, counselor, etc.) or have you consulted another health care provider about a mental health related condition?" If it wasn't a mental health issue I would just keep my story straight for the rest of your military career. If it was a mental health issue, don't worry about lying to the MEPS at this point, if and when you need to apply for a TS clearance you will have to be honest from that point forward. I highly doubt you will get in trouble for lying to MEPS at that point (as OPM's job isn't to do a fact finding job for the Army, but to determine if you are worth the risk of being granted a particular clearance level), but depending on how severe your mental health issue was, you may be denied a TS clearance.

[USMC_8156]

Like seigecaps said, you'll be fine. Relax. If it eats at your concience, if they come down to do an interview for your clearance, give them the narrative of your life to include all of that. I will lay down money that they will tell you they could care less about any of it.

You'll be fine man. Focus on getting ready for basic.

[smarg]

I had every intention of being 100% truthful and 100% legit when I went into the recruiter's office the first time. I even told them that directly. I did NOT want to lie about anything. But, I was told that "that doesn't count, so say no" about a few things. I did what I was told, and answered no at MEPS. And now it's eating me up.

Here's what I was told wasn't important enough to list:

When I was 14, I had a "school permit" that allowed me to drive from home to school, directly. I was caught off of the path, and my school permit was taken away. I had no problems getting my driver's license when I turned 16.
I've had four speeding tickets between now and when I was 16 (six years' time). The first two I paid through mail. The third was in a state I didn't live in, and I didn't pay through the mail and was out of state for the court date. I was never told or received any mail or anything about the ticket and never had, to the best of my knowledge, a warrant in my name. I paid the ticket some time after the court date over the phone, and they took the payment no problem. All three of those tickets were more than three years ago. The fourth ticket got in 2008, and went "to court" recently, but it was dismissed.
I broke my foot when I was 13, and had surgery on it. It quickly recovered to 100% and I've never any problems since (and i hike, rock climb, sky dive, exercise, and play sports).


I've never been arrested, never been detained, never had a warrant for my arrest (that I am aware of, it's possible there might have been a bench warrant for that ticket that was out of state) and so on. I did disclose another medical issue that could have possibly stopped my recruitment, and was granted a waiver.

I have signed my contract, and I have sworn in, but I haven't shipped to BCT yet. I think I'm technically in DEP until I ship.

I have a job that will require a "secret" clearance. How does this change things?

What do I do? I HATE this feeling I have because I didn't disclose those things. Please, I need some advice.

If your advice is something you don't think should be publicly viewable to potential recruitrs or for any other reason, PLEASE pm it to me. I don't know what to do. I just want to serve my country.

Aww, man, how COULD you?? DO you know that when you get to basic training they will put you under a hot light and interrogate you for HOURS for this?

:D Seriously, don't sweat it.

[ringjamesa]

Am I the only one who see that this kid was a fraudulent enlistment? The traffic violations aren't a big deal-wouldn't even require a waiver so why the recruiter allegedly told him to lie about that...anyway...That will be no problem. Until of course they find out that he had sugery on his foot-are there scars? Retained hardware? If so...problem. If there is retained hardware, they may or may not process a waiver at Basic-may just send you home with an uncharacterized. If there isn't and you confess they will probably take an X-ray and run the waiver (probably wouldn't have needed one if you hadn't lied). I doubt if it will cause you any problems but IF it is discovered, it can. They supposedly check your civilian records-they don't. The biggest thing would be if you had retained hardware. That, you cannot cover up if they ever take an X-ray and if they find it, you could be in T-R-O-U-B-L-E. I

So...long story short. If you have retained hardware, come clean IMMEDIATELY. If the scar shows stiitches...your call. If it is just a cool scar and no retained hardware...that's your call they will never find out.

BTW, the reason this shit bothers me is I had one little Fer that tried to say that I told him to lie when he got to Basic and got all scared. I was cleared and the little bastard never made it through anyway but it pissed me off. If he had told me what he admitted to in Basic, he never would have even made it to MEPS.

[sigecaps]

It doesn't bother me. Many recruiters tell recruits to lie at MEPs. It's happened to me.

"Smoking pot several times doesn't count as prior drug use, don't worry about it. Just don't smoke up before your MEPs interview, and you'll be alright."

[DDNIGHT]

What happened to the "I" in "LDRSHIP"??? Where's everyone's Integrity?

When I was a recruiter, I told my applicants to tell me everything that happened in the past and I took care of the administrative stuff from there. Yes, it took forever to get sometimes and it put me in a bad spot for numbers, but they got in after sending the documentation for a pre-read at MEPS. 99% of the time, that was all that was required and it wasn't a big issue when they got down the MEPS to join.

Recruiters should not be putting future Soldiers in these situations where the applicant feels guilty or uneasy about not disclosing their history.

You guys should know better than that....

[DDNIGHT]

Am I the only one who see that this kid was a fraudulent enlistment?
BTW, the reason this shit bothers me is I had one little Fer that tried to say that I told him to lie when he got to Basic and got all scared. I was cleared and the little bastard never made it through anyway but it pissed me off. If he had told me what he admitted to in Basic, he never would have even made it to MEPS.


I'm with you ringjamesa.....when those kids get to BCT, they get scared and start talking....happens more often than you think.

Fess up and disclose this stuff....you'd be better off getting it out of the way sooner rather than later.

[aavery]

I have had many moving violations in the past but have always paid them ontime, and have never had a warrant issued. I do not have any open tickets now; yet my recruiter told me to lie and say I have never had any....I'm scared because I did as he told me and I'm leaving for boot camp in 10 days....what should I do? Should I tell MEPS? Per the background check the recruiter did, nothing came up...I don't need a clearance because I'm joining as a nurse....what do you think?

[ringjamesa]

I have had many moving violations in the past but have always paid them ontime, and have never had a warrant issued. I do not have any open tickets now; yet my recruiter told me to lie and say I have never had any....I'm scared because I did as he told me and I'm leaving for boot camp in 10 days....what should I do? Should I tell MEPS? Per the background check the recruiter did, nothing came up...I don't need a clearance because I'm joining as a nurse....what do you think?

If you are a nurse, you wouldn't be going to Basic training you would be going to OTS. If your recruiter REALLY told you to lie, they might do a waiver. Everyone requires a security clearance-even nurses. Did your recruiter do the background check in every location you had a ticket? Many moving violations could be a problem. Admit your sins at basic and beg for mercy or just lie and hope you don't get caught. That is up to you.

[DDNIGHT]

I have had many moving violations in the past but have always paid them ontime, and have never had a warrant issued. I do not have any open tickets now; yet my recruiter told me to lie and say I have never had any....I'm scared because I did as he told me and I'm leaving for boot camp in 10 days....what should I do? Should I tell MEPS? Per the background check the recruiter did, nothing came up...I don't need a clearance because I'm joining as a nurse....what do you think?

Fess up now....better to go in with a clean slate and for you to feel better about the situation. You never know...this might come back to bite you in the a55 later on....I've seen it happen. Your recruiter is a lazy piece of crap for telling you to lie about it.

That's what's wrong with recruiters these days and why we are having problems with attrition.....all it takes is some phone calls and paperwork...NOT HARD AT ALL!

[goldbadge]

I had every intention of being 100% truthful and 100% legit when I went into the recruiter's office the first time. I even told them that directly. I did NOT want to lie about anything. But, I was told that "that doesn't count, so say no" about a few things. I did what I was told, and answered no at MEPS. And now it's eating me up.

Here's what I was told wasn't important enough to list:

When I was 14, I had a "school permit" that allowed me to drive from home to school, directly. I was caught off of the path, and my school permit was taken away. I had no problems getting my driver's license when I turned 16.
I've had four speeding tickets between now and when I was 16 (six years' time). The first two I paid through mail. The third was in a state I didn't live in, and I didn't pay through the mail and was out of state for the court date. I was never told or received any mail or anything about the ticket and never had, to the best of my knowledge, a warrant in my name. I paid the ticket some time after the court date over the phone, and they took the payment no problem. All three of those tickets were more than three years ago. The fourth ticket got in 2008, and went "to court" recently, but it was dismissed.
I broke my foot when I was 13, and had surgery on it. It quickly recovered to 100% and I've never any problems since (and i hike, rock climb, sky dive, exercise, and play sports).


I've never been arrested, never been detained, never had a warrant for my arrest (that I am aware of, it's possible there might have been a bench warrant for that ticket that was out of state) and so on. I did disclose another medical issue that could have possibly stopped my recruitment, and was granted a waiver.

I have signed my contract, and I have sworn in, but I haven't shipped to BCT yet. I think I'm technically in DEP until I ship.

I have a job that will require a "secret" clearance. How does this change things?

What do I do? I HATE this feeling I have because I didn't disclose those things. Please, I need some advice.

If your advice is something you don't think should be publicly viewable to potential recruitrs or for any other reason, PLEASE pm it to me. I don't know what to do. I just want to serve my country.

Speeding tickets dont count for anyting. Seriously the search they do up at MEPS usually doesnt pop traffic stuff and even if it did you would need a TON of traffic violations in a 365 day period and then it would just get waivered.

Dont sweat it.

[sigecaps]

Speeding tickets dont count for anyting. Seriously the search they do up at MEPS usually doesnt pop traffic stuff and even if it did you would need a TON of traffic violations in a 365 day period and then it would just get waivered.

Dont sweat it.

Speeding tickets will affect your ability to get a clearance.

[goldbadge]

Speeding tickets will affect your ability to get a clearance.


Sure, more than 5 in a 365 day period and that would require a moral waiver therefore making him ineligible for a F SJC code. But according to his story he didnt have more than 5 in a 365 degree period. Do you know what pops up on the MEPS background check? Do you know exactly what criminal database they check? I do.

Now the 5 in 365 is an Air Force standard. We have the most strict moral waiver standards(well I heard coast guard is similar).So I'm guessing you could have 10 speeding tickets in the last month and not require a waiver for the Army(sarcasm).

[mel44]

Sure, more than 5 in a 365 day period and that would require a moral waiver therefore making him ineligible for a F SJC code. But according to his story he didnt have more than 5 in a 365 degree period. Do you know what pops up on the MEPS background check? Do you know exactly what criminal database they check? I do.

Now the 5 in 365 is an Air Force standard. We have the most strict moral waiver standards(well I heard coast guard is similar).So I'm guessing you could have 10 speeding tickets in the last month and not require a waiver for the Army(sarcasm).

darlin I think it has to do with gettng your license revolked for speeding tickets. In Minnesota it's 3. Most states are 5. Once your license is up for revocation then it changes from a moving violation.

[goldbadge]

Not having a DL will not keep you from getting a Top Secret. It may DQ you from certain jobs that require a DL but thats it. I'm not going to go into any more detail but this guy would still get a Top Secret because I know what the rules are and have seen similar circumstances. He needs to sit down and have a heart to heart with his recruiter and it will get sorted out without him losing a his F SJC code.

[inthatcase]

hypotheticly speaking.... how about minor drug convictions i.e. juvenile simple possesion of marijuna, with no arest no fingerprinting?

[1navynuke]

You should go back to MEPS and tell them everything. Then immediatly start searching for a new line of work....

[sigecaps]

Sure, more than 5 in a 365 day period and that would require a moral waiver therefore making him ineligible for a F SJC code. But according to his story he didnt have more than 5 in a 365 degree period. Do you know what pops up on the MEPS background check? Do you know exactly what criminal database they check? I do.

Now the 5 in 365 is an Air Force standard. We have the most strict moral waiver standards(well I heard coast guard is similar).So I'm guessing you could have 10 speeding tickets in the last month and not require a waiver for the Army(sarcasm).

Do you have a TS clearance? Do you know what questions OPM asks when they interview you? I do. Neither the Air Force nor the Army decides who gets a TS clearance. The process is adjudicated by OPM. Do you think they rely on a MEPS background check to hand out TS clearances? lol.

Speeding tickets will come up. Moving violations that result in more than $250 will come up. Reckless driving will come up. Now will a single speeding ticket or two prevent you from getting a TS clearance? No. But OPM is looking at the totality of your record, and if it contributes to a picture which paints you as someone who isn't stable or responsible, then it will indeed affect your ability to get a clearance. In fact this is why they ask you to report everything, and not only times that you have received more than five speeding tickets in a 365 day period. :rolleyes:

[Red Dragon]

What happened to the "I" in "LDRSHIP"??? Where's everyone's Integrity?

Why don't you ask the colonel that screwed a private and had a baby, and then had another colonel take the paternity test for him? THAT'S integrity!

[DDNIGHT]

Why don't you ask the colonel that screwed a private and had a baby, and then had another colonel take the paternity test for him? THAT'S integrity!


I guess it starts at the top....well, it should anyway.

But what does that have to do with this Soldier not telling MEPS about his priors with the law? Two totally differenty subjects and if someone does something wrong, it doesn't mean you should too just becuase "someone else is doing it".

If anything, the COL's situation should be a lesson to everyone else.....

[sigecaps]

I guess it starts at the top....well, it should anyway.

But what does that have to do with this Soldier not telling MEPS about his priors with the law? Two totally differenty subjects and if someone does something wrong, it doesn't mean you should too just becuase "someone else is doing it".

If anything, the COL's situation should be a lesson to everyone else.....

Well when you have your recruiter telling you to lie, it makes the moral questions a little more fuzzy and not so black and white.

[goldbadge]

Do you have a TS clearance? Do you know what questions OPM asks when they interview you? I do. Neither the Air Force nor the Army decides who gets a TS clearance. The process is adjudicated by OPM. Do you think they rely on a MEPS background check to hand out TS clearances? lol.

Speeding tickets will come up. Moving violations that result in more than $250 will come up. Reckless driving will come up. Now will a single speeding ticket or two prevent you from getting a TS clearance? No. But OPM is looking at the totality of your record, and if it contributes to a picture which paints you as someone who isn't stable or responsible, then it will indeed affect your ability to get a clearance. In fact this is why they ask you to report everything, and not only times that you have received more than five speeding tickets in a 365 day period. :rolleyes:

To answer your question yes, and yes.

And you are right the OPM does a different backgroun check than MEPS and it will pop up much more stuff. But still I have seen the investigators find waiverable offenses that was not brought up at MEPS and they still recieved the security clearences. I have NEVER seen traffic violations less than a DUI have any effect on somebodies clearance unless they had more thatn 6 in a 365 day period. That includes reckless driving. Now, i'm not advocating people lie about anyting. I'm an NCO and been living under the Integrity FIrst rule for a long time. I am just letting the original poster know that based on the information he gave me he is still eligible for a TS.

[TheHarleyMan2]

What happened to the "I" in "LDRSHIP"??? Where's everyone's Integrity?

When I was a recruiter, I told my applicants to tell me everything that happened in the past and I took care of the administrative stuff from there. Yes, it took forever to get sometimes and it put me in a bad spot for numbers, but they got in after sending the documentation for a pre-read at MEPS. 99% of the time, that was all that was required and it wasn't a big issue when they got down the MEPS to join.

Recruiters should not be putting future Soldiers in these situations where the applicant feels guilty or uneasy about not disclosing their history.

You guys should know better than that....

IT is ALL ABOUT PAPERWORK. It took me 2 years to go from National Guard to Army Reserves. I started making the change over prior to me getting out of the National Guard in Nov 2005. Why it took 23 months 5 recruiters? Because 4 of the recruiters DIDN'T want to do paperwork. Even though there were some minor things on my record during the time I was in the National Guard, due to getting divorced and my ex-wife pulling crap, during our divorce and making false statements and her "FORMER" Army Reserve Commander, (as she got out of the reserves after our divorce), who happened to be a police officer/detective. Tried framing me for shit that never stuck or had evidence. They were trying to ruin my career and whatever else they could do and never succeeded.

Because of recruiters having to do "MORE PAPERWORK" for further background checks, waviers, etc. They blew me off for months on end passing me to another recruiter after one had me retake the ASVAB, then the other recruiter sent me to MEPS, passed my physical, then the other recruiters kept dicking me around. Even one of the station commanders said I couldn't come in the Army Reserves adn never gave me proof.

It took me sending my paperwork after 22 months of being dicked around by recruiters, etc to recruiting command at Fort Knox and explained my situation with previous recruiters and stations in my area the past 22 months. After they reviewed my paperwork and background, etc and they gave me a thumbs up and said nothing prevented me from continuing my service and when they found out the recruiters dicked me around for 2 years they pretty much contacted a station outside of my town and explained to them they had 3 days to finish my paperwork and process me, (I STILL have the letter Fort Knox sent to me that was forwarded to the station outside my area to get me processed and find a unit! I live in Austin, Texas and I felt good someone finally did the right thing!). I can say this much of what happened, 4 recruiters were dismissed from Active Duty and 1 station commander was releived! Sad to say, but the less paperwork recruiters have to do, the more they bump in boot-camp.

After I got sworn in and got my initial issue 4 days later, I made a point to visit ALL 3 recruiting stations that dicked me around for 22 months and just showed my face in uniform looking to see if the dipshits were still there so I could rub it in their face they didn't know shit. Of course, they were not there and the 2 of the Active Duty Recruiters saw my name on my uniform and kept conversation cut and dry as they were there when shit hit the fan from Ft Knox and they knew exactly who I was! Damn it STILL FELT GOOD to show them they were wrong, even though the MAIN dipshits were not there anymore including the station commander SFC!!

I am NOT the only one who has had experiences with recruiters getting one to lie or be dishonest and they hate to do the extra paperwork if they can keep from it by any means!

[ChrisW1989]

I have a question... I have WAYYYY too many speeding tickets... 2-3 that are over 100 (i think that one of them got taken down and written as 80mph) Never been arrested never had my license taken away( They messed up and it should've been taken away... i had more points in a year then you're supposed to be able to have in California)

Anyways... In my situation should i lie?

[goldbadge]

I have a question... I have WAYYYY too many speeding tickets... 2-3 that are over 100 (i think that one of them got taken down and written as 80mph) Never been arrested never had my license taken away( They messed up and it should've been taken away... i had more points in a year then you're supposed to be able to have in California)

Anyways... In my situation should i lie?

How many in the last 365 day period? Also over 100 was that reckless driving? What service are you looking to join?

[ChrisW1989]

How many in the last 365 day period? Also over 100 was that reckless driving? What service are you looking to join?

I think maybe 1 over 100mph, and that one was 2 points on my record... i have one speeding ticket on top of that which was only like 9mph over, so total of 3 points in the last 365 days (pretty sure)

I didn't get written for reckless driving (atleast that the police turned in)

I'm debating between the Army and the AF but it's looking more like Army

[goldbadge]

I think maybe 1 over 100mph, and that one was 2 points on my record... i have one speeding ticket on top of that which was only like 9mph over, so total of 3 points in the last 365 days (pretty sure)

I didn't get written for reckless driving (atleast that the police turned in)

I'm debating between the Army and the AF but it's looking more like Army


Based on what you just listed you are eligible for the Air Force. Have you sat down and spoke with an Air Force recruiter?

[ChrisW1989]

Based on what you just listed you are eligible for the Air Force. Have you sat down and spoke with an Air Force recruiter?

No i haven't, I have a GED and that is why i'm leaning more towards Army then Air Force. I'm going to call a few community colleges and see what classes they can enroll me in to get a quick 15 semester hours in... If it's going to take too long then I'll be joining the Army (i have already talked to Army recruiters but i completely forgot too mention my driving record lol)

Thanks for the info and I will talk to a Airforce recruiter if i decide to goto college

[goldbadge]

No i haven't, I have a GED and that is why i'm leaning more towards Army then Air Force. I'm going to call a few community colleges and see what classes they can enroll me in to get a quick 15 semester hours in... If it's going to take too long then I'll be joining the Army (i have already talked to Army recruiters but i completely forgot too mention my driving record lol)

Thanks for the info and I will talk to a Airforce recruiter if i decide to goto college


Most local Comm. Colleges can get you 15 sem hours in a single semester. I have a guy that just signed up for 5 classes and said he couldnt belive how easy they were. You can even use the college loan repayment program to pay for the classes. You can get DEP in with the Air Force as soon you enroll in the classes.

[ChrisW1989]

Most local Comm. Colleges can get you 15 sem hours in a single semester. I have a guy that just signed up for 5 classes and said he couldnt belive how easy they were. You can even use the college loan repayment program to pay for the classes. You can get DEP in with the Air Force as soon you enroll in the classes.

Thats awesome, i was wondering how DEP worked i never bothered asking because i thought that the Air Force was out of the question until recently. Thanks again, i have an appointment with a councilor too talk about classes and time frames :D

[Uglybass]

I know this thread is kind of old, but I have run into the exact same situation as some of the other people in this topic. My recruiter told me to not report any of my tickets that were under a $100 fine and as long as they were nothing more than minor traffic tickets. I was also told that when you turn 21 all those minor traffic tickets are dropped from your record unless they were more serious charges, like over 100mph tickets and such.

Well here is my history basically: When I was 16 or 17 I got a no seat belt ticket, when I was 18 I got a reckless driving ticket that was brought down to a faulty vehicle (I think, I am not sure it could still be a reckless driving ticket). When I was 19 or 20 I got a speeding ticket. When I was 22 I got a no proof of insurance ticket and when I was 23 I got a speeding ticket and a no headlights ticket. None of the speeding tickets were over 15mph of the speed limit, the no proof of insurance ticket cost $100 exactly, the other speeding ticket cost $75 and the no headlight ticket cost $75. So that's six in total, three when I was over the age of 21. I am 24 now.

I guess you could say this is a lot, but as I said none of them were serious and only three of them have happened since I was 21 and none of them were over $100. I went into the recruiting station today and the Master Chief was bearing down on me, and I kind of flinched and told him I had more than one speeding ticket. They tried to pull up criminal report on the computer and it was completely clean (no charges other than the traffic tickets) so now they said that when I get back from this week long vacation in Florida we are going to the DMV to get my driving record.

I am kind of scared now that once they find this information they're going to say they don't want me in the Navy anymore or something. Recruiters already lied to me so I don't know who to trust anymore. I guess this info is going to come up but am I at any risk of losing my job with the Navy? I will admit to everything if I have to, but if I don't have to I won't to protect my job.

I am going as a Hospital Corpsman, which doesn't require a top secret or any kind of clearance so I am not so worried about that aspect, but just getting in. I guess all the hootin' and hollering scared me like they wanted, and I want some reassurance. Sorry for the long post.