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mrslynch
01-14-2009, 06:03 PM
If you have a family living in quarters most states are still going to count that as income for child support and wic so you would be better off living in a substandard manner so you can get federal programs in line because....

The current Federal Guidelines for calculating spousal and child support along with many other federal programs allow for each States Attorney General to define at their discretion what can be included as income for non-custodial parents. The Federal Guidelines are silent on what can or cannot be counted as income for service members, therefore each state decides if Basic Allowance for Housing, (BAH) and Basic Allowance for Subsistence (BAS), is calculated for child support. The Federal Guideline is currently only requires states to include healthcare and “income”. Ninety percent of states current count these amounts in calculating child support for noncustodial parents that are service members regardless if they are receiving this money. The BAH that a service member receives is to house their family either on or off post. The purpose of this is clearly outlined in Army Regulation 608-99 dated February 2003, which covers support of the family and the consequences that soldiers’ may face for non-support. While it addresses issues concerning soldiers’ that do not have court orders for support it also defers to each state as to the inclusion of BAH. Therefore a service member’s child support or spousal support could significantly increase simply by being transferred to another post as BAH is calculated based on zip code and rank. This then causes a hardship on the soldier and their children because child support is the right of the child, but it is the right of the Army to transfer you at any time. In any other profession your child support would not be based on where you live, simply what you earn and receive. The BAS that a service member receives is to provide them, personally with food, and was previously defined as “rations in kind”. If a soldier chooses to eat in the dining facility then they do not receive this benefit and are in different circumstances that vary by location on how much if any BAS they receive, however again ninety percent of states still count this as income for child support purposes. The law needs to address the inequity that civilians and military face as outlined above. The Federal Law should state that Base Pay, which is truly what they earn for their service, is what is to be used to calculate as there are too many state and military variables that do not allow the members of our Armed Forces to support their children and families in an appropriate manner. When I contacted the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services department with this issue the Agency of Children and Families which administers part of the Federal Child Support Enforcement Act did not know that this is how child support was being calculated for service members as they focus on those that do not pay. This is an issue that should be handled on a Federal Level. As an active member of the Army Volunteer Corps I have personally seen how this impacts soldiers’ and families not just on my personal situation as I live in quarters so my spouse does not receive BAH but it is included in calculating his child support in another state. Lower ranking soldiers that earn far less than my spouse are unable to meet day to day expenses because of how these calculations are made from state to state. Some have been evicted from their homes, had vehicles repossessed and were forced to take out loans just to survive. One soldier in particular deployed to Iraq and although he was divorced from his spouse and child support had been set and he was current, she was able to successfully petition the court (he waived his SSRA) to increase his support based on his BAH and Combat Pay even though he had joint custody of their children and the Army allowed for him to maintain quarters for them. This increased his support to over $3000.00 per month for two children and when he returned from war he was forced to file for bankruptcy. Sir, children have the right to be supported by both parents but members of the Armed Forces need a specific outline in the Federal Child Support.

RCS09
06-29-2009, 10:56 AM
I am currently going through the same thing with my husband. We are in our last court hearing and it looks like they are going to include BAH which is really hard for us to understand when this set amount can change at any moment. Plus it still applies to service members who are not receiving BAH but housing is being covered. How can the court systems put a measure on a dollar amount on this? This would be the same if we were living rent free in our parents home. Would the court system factor that we don't have that bill to pay and include some random dollar amount in the child support? Not too mention they are trying to set an arrearage of the difference of pay since the time my husband was served. So basically they are looking to set the new child support amount back a whole year. Yes we have been going back and forth on this issue (an equal disagreement on a child support amount from both parties) for a year. This is not entirely my husband's fault. The respondent didn't agree on a set amount that was previously trying to be set which resulted in keeping this court hearing going. The last agreement my husband disagreed with because of the arrearage even though he has been paying his normal set support amount on the previous court order (what he is supposed to pay). Plus the difference is going to increase by at least $500 because they are including BAH and BAS. Who is it that we can contact to bring this up to a higher authority? Is this something that I can bring up to my congressman?

ringjamesa
06-29-2009, 02:20 PM
I can see why you see the court decisions as unfair. What I can't see is how you equate that to BAH not being equal. It is equal for some-same dependancy status/rank/TIS/location=same BAH...last time I checked anyway...

Yggdrasil
06-29-2009, 06:55 PM
That's why you do a marital settlement agreement when you divorce. You both decide on the amount and let it stay set, or increase/decrease in proportion to your income.

I got divorced in Virginia, and yes, BAH/BAS counts for income there. Not only that, but your child support there is based on your net pay and not your gross - which actually sucks, because if it was based on your gross, the fact that BAH/BAS are tax-free, it would make your income actually appear to be less than a civilian's the with same net pay.

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06-30-2009, 01:08 AM
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