737 MTI Recruiting

[CMSBROWN]

Life as a MTI
Tue, Jan 6, 2009

Military Training Instructors(MTI) are bound by the highest ethical and moral standards. An MTI's work load varies. The experience of the instructor and the week of training affects the hours worked. A new MTI will typically take more time on certain tasks and the first two of the eight weeks in the basic training program are especially busy. Ideally there are two instructors per flight, which allows them to maintain reasonable schedules, this is not guaranteed. Each flight consists of anywhere from 48 to 60 trainees. Browse through the eight-week schedule to see an overview of each week.

Probably the most demanding WOT (Week of Training) is 0 (zero) week. This week consists of initial processing, uniform issue, shots, haircuts for males, etc. You will also begin teaching drill and dorm, conduct various briefings and begin the process of turning civilians into airmen. The new trainees have little sense of teamwork, are mostly home sick and just plain confused. It will be up to you to begin instilling the core values and leading them toward graduation.

The 1st WOT is taken up with more processing appointments, drill classes and application, briefings and physical conditioning six days a week. At this point in time, the trainees are becoming accustomed to military life and starting to gel into a team. During the 2nd WOT your flight will receive evaluations on all areas of the dorm to include: recruit living areas, wall locker, clothing drawer, security drawer, and weapons evaluation. Flights will be assigned base details once in the 2nd WOT. This is a day when the entire flight is gone for a large part of day doing such things as KP, cleaning weapons, etc. Detail day is a good day to take care of personal things.

During the 3rd WOT your flight will receive their first graded inspection on all areas of the dorm to include: recruit living areas, wall locker, clothing drawer and weapons evaluation. Trainees in the 3rd WOT spend the majority of their time in academic classes. You, as the flight MTI do not teach these classes. BMT has an element of academic instructors tasked to teach all academic classes. The flight MTI marches the flight to a classroom in the squadron and the academic instructor takes over for the majority of the day. This is your time to complete paperwork, conduct dorm inspections, take care of personal business, etc.

During the 4th WOT your flight will spend their time learning about threat awareness and CBRNE training. This week will you will find yourself covering topics like CBRNE, chamber training, Anti-terrorism and security programs. The trainees will also go to the confidence course and tactical course. During this week you will perform an evaluation on weapons breakdown and assembly. This is a great week for you as a MTI and the trainees as well, team building events will really bring your trainees together and have them asking for more.

In the 5th WOT trainees spend a lot of time in the classroom learning about AEF and pre-deployment training, mental preparation for combat, public relations, and basic leadership. Some of the new changes for this week will include pugil stick training and public relations. This is the week that the trainees will go to CATM M-16 and take their first written test on subjects covered up to this point.

The 6th WOT will now be the week that trainees go to the new BEAST ( Basic Expeditionary Airman Skills Training ). The BEAST is much more involved compared to what was known a Warrior Week. Trainees will also get exposed to SERE familiarization training which is a first in BMT. Trainees will be exposed to a mobility processing line and deployment briefings. You as a MTI will be assisting the BEAST cadre with training and monitoring the trainees through different events that will take place. Keep in mind that this is subject to change and you as the MTI will be used as needed to offset the cadre.

The 7th WOT will consist of Airmanship and evaluations. This week will cover classes on Combat Stress recovery, sexual assault prevention and reporting, suicide awareness and prevention, STD's, Air Force History, and sexually transmitted diseases. Several new training items have been added to this week as well like CATM M-9 training, Air Force History, Enlisted Heritage, and joint warfare. This week you will, as the MTI, find yourself doing evaluations of drill/ reporting/ and courtesies, PRT evals, and the second written test. As you can imagine this will be a very full week for you and the trainees.

The 8th WOT will be focused on graduation to include Airmanship and Core values, Airman's coin ceremony, retreat, and the all important Parade. This will be a fun and fast week for you and the trainees and a chance for you and your trainees to show everyone that they have what it takes to be an Airman in the world’s greatest Air Force. Family members from all across America will be coming to see their Airmen and how they have changed and they usually love to shake the hand of the MTI that made that change happen for their son or daughter. This is a week full of pride and confidence and a chance for all to see your hard work.


Application process

The following documents must be provided to the MTI Recruiting Team:

1. AETC Special Duty Application.
2. Full length, unobstructed, 45 degree view 5x7-inch photograph in short sleeve blue shirt (tucked in), all accouterments, NO tie, NO tie tab, NO hat, and NO princess cut shirts. Self-generated photos supplied by the applicant are acceptable; however, base photo lab may be used. Please review all photos before you send them to insure compliance with AFI 36-2903.
3. Photographs of any exposed tattoos when in shorts and t-shirt.
4. Copies of last five EPR's.
5. Applicants must be evaluated by a psychologist or psychiatrist at their local Life Skills Support Center and administered a MMPI or MMPI-2 and Shipley Test. This evaluation package must be mailed to BAS/MTI/MMC, 1431 McGuire Street, Lackland AFB TX 78236-5562. BAS will evaluate the information and send a recommendation.
6. A separate letter of recommendation (LoR) from your squadron commander stating why he/she feels you would make a great MTI. You may also have additional LoRs included with your application.
7. Physical Readiness Training results must be 75% or better.
8. Copy of seven page Virtual MPF Record RIP.
9. Air Force Form 422.
10. PT Score sheet from vMPF
11. Mail package to 737 TRSS/TSRR, 1618 Truemper Street, Lackland AFB TX 78236-5255. Applicants are encouraged to contact the MTI Recruiting Team at DSN 473-1016/1018 or Email MTIR@lackland.af.mil for additional information. MTI packages may also be faxed to DSN 473-0764
Commanders Review

Commander must verify the following:

• No record of disciplinary action or financial irresponsibility in the past 5 years.
• Good speaking voice with ability to communicate well.
• Integrity and high moral character.
• Ability to lead and have empathetic understanding of the problems of young airman away from home in a new environment.
• High standards of military appearance and conduct.

Commander reviews the medical recommendation and interviews the applicant and makes their recommendation.

Contact info

If you have any questions, contact the MTI Recruiting Team at Lackland AFB, DSN 473-1016/1018, Commercial (210)671-1016/1018, or email mtir@lackland.af.mil. Also, check out your base paper each week. The MTI recruiting team visits 60 bases each year and normally will run ads 2 weeks prior to the visit. The team briefing normally starts at 0845. You may complete an application package, have your records screened and have an on-site interview at that time.

MTI Recruiting Trip Schedule
Tue, Feb 3, 2009

MTI RECRUITING TEAM TRIP SCHEDULE FY08 / 09
ALL BASE VISITS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. PLEASE CHECK WITH YOUR BASE CAREER ASSISTANCE ADVISOR.

10 Feb 09 - Shaw AFB

12 Feb 09 - Charleston AFB

25 Feb 09 - Moody AFB

27 Feb 09 - Robbins AFB

* These are MTI only trips. Recruiting, PME, TECH School, and ALS special duties will not be briefed.

If you have a question about when we will be at your base check with you base Career Assistance Advisor.

[Max Power]

Keep passing that Kool Aid around.

[CMSBROWN]

Keep passing that Kool Aid around.

LMAO! Got it off the AF POOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL LL! :D

[Smeghead]

Already got my package in. Frightening I know :)

[sigecaps]

Do you guys still make the Airmen say, "Air Power, Space Power, AEF!"?

Or is it now, "Air Power, Space Power, Cyber Power, Tempo Bands!" ? :)

[Smeghead]

Do you guys still make the Airmen say, "Air Power, Space Power, AEF!"?

Or is it now, "Air Power, Space Power, Cyber Power, Tempo Bands!" ? :)

What guys? There aren't any TIs in here. I don't think the Chief is a TI and I haven't received a yes/no yet.

I believe the reason for Chief's post is that MTIs are currently 62% manned. It's been all over Enlisted Perspectives, CMSAF's Roll Call, AFNEWs and Airman magazine that AETC is in serious need of TIs. there's a big push on to get E-5s and E-6s to volunteer.

Come on CombatCorrespondent, time to walk the walk. I threw my name in :)

[Combat correspondent]

What guys? There aren't any TIs in here. I don't think the Chief is a TI and I haven't received a yes/no yet.

I believe the reason for Chief's post is that MTIs are currently 62% manned. It's been all over Enlisted Perspectives, CMSAF's Roll Call, AFNEWs and Airman magazine that AETC is in serious need of TIs. there's a big push on to get E-5s and E-6s to volunteer.

Come on CombatCorrespondent, time to walk the walk. I threw my name in :)

Say what! That sounds fun as crap but I've got orders to PCS OVERSEAS (yipee!!!) and have never lived or even been TDY to USAFE - I've got to go do this!

I can't believe you are going be a Drill Demon with a PA tongue :) That sounds like a sh!t ton of fun though, man! You think I could,,,,,nah, my wife would whip my a$$ if I lost her chance to live in Europe! Still, the offer of bringing all of these people into BMT to kick a$$ sounds like a great road to travel and, a good opportunity to shape the troops before they even hit their schools!

[Combat correspondent]

Do you guys still make the Airmen say, "Air Power, Space Power, AEF!"?

Or is it now, "Air Power, Space Power, Cyber Power, Tempo Bands!" ? :)

Maybe they just say "Semper HUA with a twist of Air Power" - and maybe they say that while they are slurring Anchors Aweigh and drinking to the foam :)

[Combat correspondent]

Maybe they just say "Semper HUA with a twist of Air Power" - and maybe they say that while they are slurring Anchors Aweigh and drinking to the foam :)

And doing whatever the Coast Guard does too ;) Almost forgot those guys!

USMC got it right on the other thread when he said we have multiple personalities!

[wx4life]

Say what! That sounds fun as crap but I've got orders to PCS OVERSEAS (yipee!!!) and have never lived or even been TDY to USAFE - I've got to go do this!

I can't believe you are going be a Drill Demon with a PA tongue :) That sounds like a sh!t ton of fun though, man! You think I could,,,,,nah, my wife would whip my a$$ if I lost her chance to live in Europe! Still, the offer of bringing all of these people into BMT to kick a$$ sounds like a great road to travel and, a good opportunity to shape the troops before they even hit their schools!

This job is 62% manned and needs volunteers~! However CC would rather go to Europe. Boy ain't this a perfect example of SELF BEFORE SERVICE!!!!!! What a hyprocrite!

[CMSBROWN]

What guys? There aren't any TIs in here. I don't think the Chief is a TI and I haven't received a yes/no yet.

I believe the reason for Chief's post is that MTIs are currently 62% manned. It's been all over Enlisted Perspectives, CMSAF's Roll Call, AFNEWs and Airman magazine that AETC is in serious need of TIs. there's a big push on to get E-5s and E-6s to volunteer.

Come on CombatCorrespondent, time to walk the walk. I threw my name in :)

Nope not a TI...never have been but it did peak my interest and seen the rank requirements I thought DAGNABBIT!.....Seen it on our GLOURIOUS AF Portal and figured there was some High Speed, Low Drag NCO's on here who would like to do it as well.

Didn't ask for the BS comments....Pass the Kool aid comments nor do I expect anyone to make comments of someone being a hypocrite because they have orders to PCS overseas. If your going to call the pot calling the kettle black about Service Before Self you should be setting the example first before making those comments.

The post was for like I said...those High Speed....Low Drag NCO's that might want a change in their current AFSC who are stuck in a rut.

I will pass on info to my brethren on the boards as I see it or think it is of interest.

If not interested...then dont comment. :rolleyes:

[Max Power]

That Kool Aid sure is tasty.

[Combat correspondent]

This job is 62% manned and needs volunteers~! However CC would rather go to Europe. Boy ain't this a perfect example of SELF BEFORE SERVICE!!!!!! What a hyprocrite!

What are you talking about? My job is also critically manned. We work Godforsaken hours while others play softball and whatnot and I am getting a lecture from you about SBS? Whatever, dude. I'm there 1st thing in the a.m., leave well after dark and at a ton of sporting events, ceremonies, blah, blah, blah with my camera in hand ---- working! If you want to lecture me about SBS, how about come at me with something realistic - not my fulfilling orders I received from my monitor for a PCS. But, then again, I guess you've got to take your little jabs when you get them, right?

[Smeghead]

CC, you as a TI is a friggin scary thought. I think I'd stay on the bus :)

[sigecaps]

PA is critically manned. Say what?! :eek:

I've known so many people who tried to come into PA either through BMT or cross-training. Landing a job in PA is like hitting the lottery.

[Smeghead]

PA is critically manned. Say what?! :eek:

I've known so many people who tried to come into PA either through BMT or cross-training. Landing a job in PA is like hitting the lottery.

Traditional PA (3N0X1) is at 57% for SrA and 132% for SSgts
Photogs (3N0X4) are at 117% SrA and 85% SSgt
Broadcasters (3N0X2) are 87% SrA and 77% SSgt

A lot of people try to retrain in, that's what makes is hard. If you know anone trying to get tell them to try for photo or broadcast. We're all in the same office.

Plus we're real selective. When I interview for retraining it's going nowhere if the person's not worldwide qualified and isn't straight 5 EPRs. Without those EPRs it won't get past MAJCOM so it's not worth wasting the person's time.

[goldbadge]

PA is critically manned. Say what?! :eek:

I've known so many people who tried to come into PA either through BMT or cross-training. Landing a job in PA is like hitting the lottery.


If PA is hurting so bad why are there only 11 GTEPS in at out of 33,000 jobs this year? I wish there were more PA, pharmacist, physical therapy, finance, and other gravy jobs about 50% of the people that walk through the door have dreams of those jobs. Then I tell them if they list them I can pretty much guarenentee they will book in the general area instead and their smile gets turned upside down.

[Smeghead]

If PA is hurting so bad why are there only 11 GTEPS in at out of 33,000 jobs this year? I wish there were more PA, pharmacist, physical therapy, finance, and other gravy jobs about 50% of the people that walk through the door have dreams of those jobs. Then I tell them if they list them I can pretty much guarenentee they will book in the general area instead and their smile gets turned upside down.

Because we're talking retraining, not initial entry. We're not crtically manned per se but we have been identified as low density/high demand. We don't deploy Airmen until they're E-4 and 5 level. 7 level taskings are pretty much 1 for 1. Our PBD 720 cuts hit us bad in the NCO grades. It's not the cake job it appears.

[Combat correspondent]

We also suffered officer cutbacks. What SMEG - about 50% of our O force was cut a few years ago. Now, where we once had Majors and Lt. Colonels in PAO slots, now we have SNCOs, Captains and even sometimes Lieutenants!!

[Smeghead]

And that's why I want to be a TI. The hours at BMT will be nothing compared to what I work now :)

[Combat correspondent]

And that's why I want to be a TI. The hours at BMT will be nothing compared to what I work now :)

I know - there never seems to be enough hours in the day in this job. I have some people I still keep in contact from DINFOS (our tech school). These guys/gals are Air Force, Marines, Navy, Army and even a few CG. The other branches are pretty much working 8-10 hour days - that's it! Heck, many Air Guard PAs don't even work that much! The Air Force really puts the grind in - and still fills those other branch's billets downrange - Whiskey Tango Foxtrot brother? OK, forget the Tango and Fox, just pour me another Whiskey :cool:

Hey, hey Whiskey Jack, meet me down by the railroad track! :rolleyes:

[Capt Alfredo]

I know - there never seems to be enough hours in the day in this job. I have some people I still keep in contact from DINFOS (our tech school). These guys/gals are Air Force, Marines, Navy, Army and even a few CG. The other branches are pretty much working 8-10 hour days - that's it! Heck, many Air Guard PAs don't even work that much! The Air Force really puts the grind in - and still fills those other branch's billets downrange - Whiskey Tango Foxtrot brother? OK, forget the Tango and Fox, just pour me another Whiskey :cool:

Hey, hey Whiskey Jack, meet me down by the railroad track! :rolleyes:

Shouldn't you be snapping photos of golfers hitting #17 on Parks?

[wx4life]

PA is a lame job to have in the Air Force. Just like being in the band. They should give those jobs to the civilians and put you guys in real jobs. Especially those jobs where it is very hard to do PT during the workday.

[Smeghead]

PA is a lame job to have in the Air Force. Just like being in the band. They should give those jobs to the civilians and put you guys in real jobs. Especially those jobs where it is very hard to do PT during the workday.

Cry me a river. If you don't like your job, retrain. You weren't drafted.

[Combat correspondent]

PA is a lame job to have in the Air Force. Just like being in the band. They should give those jobs to the civilians and put you guys in real jobs. Especially those jobs where it is very hard to do PT during the workday.

The thing about PA is your are more or less a chameleon, your job becomes what you are covering (to an extent). Now, this aspect is really cool. You could spend Monday riding along with a SF member in housing and write a story that evening; spend Tuesday out at the Jet Engine Test Cell capturing photos of F220s being worked and tested and getting interviews, and write a story that evening; Wednesday perhaps you fly with an aircrew and then cover a squadron softball game Thursday night - get my point?

However, before you jump on the retrain cycle - provided you have the scores and record to justify it, consider another side of PA.

Ever seen Private Joker? It is certain if you come into PA that at some point (or several points) your chameleon job will make you a grunt and you'll spend extended amounts of time with Soldiers or Marines humping gear as you walk dismounted or ride mounted patrols, helos, air assaults, convoys, security patrols and whatever else the man needs you to do.

But, continue to insult our job, for unlike your Specialty, ours is not real.

[Smeghead]

Just heard from my CCC that non-vols may be on the way. Might be a good time for anyone with even a slight interest to look into it -- better to jump than be pushed.

[CMSBROWN]

Just heard from my CCC that non-vols may be on the way. Might be a good time for anyone with even a slight interest to look into it -- better to jump than be pushed.


True That Smeg! You vollies need to step up before your op passes by.

[venomadness]

Just heard from my CCC that non-vols may be on the way. Might be a good time for anyone with even a slight interest to look into it -- better to jump than be pushed.

Non-vols seems like the logical solution. I have some interest in becoming an MTI, but I have to admit...I'm not completely sure about what I'd be getting into. It sounds like your life is completely gone once you become an MTI.

I just started a 4 year tour in Germany, only served a year of it so far. I like the assignment but was surprisingly moved by CMSAF McKinley's call for people to step up. Are there time limitations for my situation? Do I have to finish out my tour? I actually called the MTIR commercial line and spoke to someone who couldn't give me an answer. He said, "I think you can apply for the special duty, but I don't really know." Not what I was expecting. I thought the guy would be taking down all of my information and then harrassing me until I submitted a package. Not the case...any advice? I also submitted the same question by email at the beginning of the week but it has went unanswered. Anyone knowledgeable about my situation?

Ramstein is having an "informative briefing" about it on 26 Feb, but I just thought I'd ask the question.

Thanks for the info...

[Smeghead]

Non-vols seems like the logical solution. I have some interest in becoming an MTI, but I have to admit...I'm not completely sure about what I'd be getting into. It sounds like your life is completely gone once you become an MTI.

I just started a 4 year tour in Germany, only served a year of it so far. I like the assignment but was surprisingly moved by CMSAF McKinley's call for people to step up. Are there time limitations for my situation? Do I have to finish out my tour? I actually called the MTIR commercial line and spoke to someone who couldn't give me an answer. He said, "I think you can apply for the special duty, but I don't really know." Not what I was expecting. I thought the guy would be taking down all of my information and then harrassing me until I submitted a package. Not the case...any advice? I also submitted the same question by email at the beginning of the week but it has went unanswered. Anyone knowledgeable about my situation?

Ramstein is having an "informative briefing" about it on 26 Feb, but I just thought I'd ask the question.

Thanks for the info...

I'm not 100% on OS tours, but I believe you have to complete. I do know that if you were about a year out and picked up, your class date would be your DEROS.

The problem with calling is the recruiting section is small. If they're out on the road with the AETC Special Duty team, you won't always get the answers you need. They're out of tee office this week. TSgt Eusay and SSgt Grubaugh are the folks to talk to, you'll probably get a reply to your e-mail over the weekend.

[Smeghead]

Venom, just saw it updated on the Portal, they are now authorizing curtailment of overseas tours. Go for it, my package is in, just waiting on a yay or nay

[CMSBROWN]

Venom, just saw it updated on the Portal, they are now authorizing curtailment of overseas tours. Go for it, my package is in, just waiting on a yay or nay

Mile High Salute!

[venomadness]

Venom, just saw it updated on the Portal, they are now authorizing curtailment of overseas tours. Go for it, my package is in, just waiting on a yay or nay

Thanks, Ramstein is having a briefing on becoming an MTI this Thursday. I'm going to try and attend, after that I'll talk to my 1st Sgt and my CC to see if they'll allow me to cutout early.

Good luck with your package.

[pobdeweese]

So get this:

I called Lackland today to make sure they have received everything needed for my package. I told them who I was and SSgt Grubaugh said, "Yeah you've been approved and you package is headed up to AETC for approval." So I said back, "So, when should I hear a yes or no." thinking he meant they approved it now it was up to AETC. He replies, "No, you have been approved, you should have your orders in about 2 weeks."

My wife and I were so excited and I can finally stop stressing about it. I hope to see some of you there!!

[Smeghead]

So get this:

I called Lackland today to make sure they have received everything needed for my package. I told them who I was and SSgt Grubaugh said, "Yeah you've been approved and you package is headed up to AETC for approval." So I said back, "So, when should I hear a yes or no." thinking he meant they approved it now it was up to AETC. He replies, "No, you have been approved, you should have your orders in about 2 weeks."

My wife and I were so excited and I can finally stop stressing about it. I hope to see some of you there!!

AAARGHH! I hate you. Well, not really. My package is at 2nd Air Force waiting on release from my career field by my functional. Hmmmm, 132% manned in E-5s, think there'll be a problem? :D

Hopefully see you there.

[pobdeweese]

Yeah I definately don't think you'll have a problem getting released. If you are 132% manned and they are about 50%, it should be easy, it just has to go through the paperwork channels. Good luck!

[Smeghead]

If anyone hasn't seen the new 8.5 week BMT there's a 3 part video on www.af.mil (http://www.af.mil/tv/). Click the TV link and then the under the pull down menu look for Air Force Spotlights. First three videos are on the new BMT.

Recuits now do pugil stick fighting, IED courses, bayonet drills even. Not sure about the bayonet drills-if I'm fixing a bayonet to my weapon something has gone drastically wrong.

But, the new BMT looks awesome. I definitely feel jipped after the weak, IMO, basic I went through. It looks like they listened to the complaints I've heard almost everyone say, not enough PT, weapon time etc. They're even firing M-9 as well as M-16.

It looks really good. Can't wait to get there in July.

[CMSBROWN]

If anyone hasn't seen the new 8.5 week BMT there's a 3 part video on www.af.mil (http://www.af.mil/tv/). Click the TV link and then the under the pull down menu look for Air Force Spotlights. First three videos are on the new BMT.

Recuits now do pugil stick fighting, IED courses, bayonet drills even. Not sure about the bayonet drills-if I'm fixing a bayonet to my weapon something has gone drastically wrong.

But, the new BMT looks awesome. I definitely feel jipped after the weak, IMO, basic I went through. It looks like they listened to the complaints I've heard almost everyone say, not enough PT, weapon time etc. They're even firing M-9 as well as M-16.

It looks really good. Can't wait to get there in July.

OUT-FRIGGIN-STANDING!

Seems like they are creating a great basic skills class and will soon have two of the AF's finest there to help!

Congrats to you both! HOOAH!

[Roll_Tide]

Can anyone tell me how long the application process takes once it is received at Lackland? I have had mine there for about a month now an I was just wondering how long it takes.

[Smeghead]

Mine took about 2 months. I submitted late Jan and got my assignment and training RIPS middle of March. From what I understand about the process from a former MTI when they initially review the packages they separate the all-5 EPR/all pass PT packages into a "go" pile; then the occasional markdown/previous PT problem into a "let's take another look" pile; and then the no-gos, which I doubt there's many of, go in the trash.

Obviously, if your package is all green it takes a lot less time. I think where you're at in your career makes a difference too. A 3 yr senior Airman in his CAREERS window is an easy release as manning for E-4 MTIs is incredibly low. A staff or tech may face a little resistance from their career field to let 'em go.

I'd recommend staying in touch with teh MTIR folks to make sure they have everything they need from you and then just wait. It sucks waiting, but it's worth it in the end. I heard through my chain I would be getting some good news two weeks before I saw it officially, those two weeks were hell.

Good luck.

[SSgt Allen]

I applied and two weeks later I was apporved having to fill out the training RIP. Then I got orders and I leave in a month (June 14). So I will be shadowing for roughly 2 months before my class date. I must admit I am a tad nervous.

I do not what to expect. I read that many people see divorce. I also read it is hard to get good EPR's it is a dog eat dog world there and so on.

All I can think is just to do my best to follow steps and complete taskings and remain steadfast. This seems to be the best way to stay out of trouble maybe even be recognized and achieve Blue Rope.

[Smeghead]

I applied and two weeks later I was apporved having to fill out the training RIP. Then I got orders and I leave in a month (June 14). So I will be shadowing for roughly 2 months before my class date. I must admit I am a tad nervous.

You have that much time there? I have a report no EARLIER than date. First time I've seen that. I can't show up before July 1 and my class starts July 13. Househunting will pretty much take me to the class start.

As for your other concerns, it's a bunch of type A's so yeah, I expect it to be pretty dog eat dog. As for you marriage, just learn to switch off before you go home. I worked with a TI in Iraq who said his wife had as T-shirt made saying "I'm not one of your trainees."

Luckily I'm already divorced so one less thing to worry about. See you there.

[Vince]

I went the route of MTL because IMO the MTI career field is to brutally cut throat. When I was in MTL school @ Lackland the MTI instructors told a story about getting an LOC because his S/S blue shirt was wet with sweat. In Jul. Marching trainees on a black asphalt drill pad in the afternoon.

F That nonsense.

[Smeghead]

I went the route of MTL because IMO the MTI career field is to brutally cut throat. When I was in MTL school @ Lackland the MTI instructors told a story about getting an LOC because his S/S blue shirt was wet with sweat. In Jul. Marching trainees on a black asphalt drill pad in the afternoon.

F That nonsense.

So don't do it then. I'm choosing the route of MTI because my opinion of the MTL career field is not repeatable. You do you, I'm a do me.

[Vince]

So don't do it then. I'm choosing the route of MTI because my opinion of the MTL career field is not repeatable. You do you, I'm a do me.

...pretty sure that's what I said :tongue:

[Smeghead]

...pretty sure that's what I said :tongue:

Yeah you did. But it is necessary in a thread intended to let people know MTIs are in demand and how they can find out about applying?

[Vince]

Yeah you did. But it is necessary in a thread intended to let people know MTIs are in demand and how they can find out about applying?

I shared a personal experience since we're talking about that duty and what the duty can be like, in reality. That's important to making an informed decision. Thanks for sharing your thoughts though...I'm out.

[Deedel]

Any word on how the MTI manning issue is going or how long application packages are taking to get approved?

[Smeghead]

I shared a personal experience since we're talking about that duty and what the duty can be like, in reality. That's important to making an informed decision. Thanks for sharing your thoughts though...I'm out.

No, you shared hearsay. Thanks for playing.

[pobdeweese]

I went the route of MTL because IMO the MTI career field is to brutally cut throat. When I was in MTL school @ Lackland the MTI instructors told a story about getting an LOC because his S/S blue shirt was wet with sweat. In Jul. Marching trainees on a black asphalt drill pad in the afternoon.

F That nonsense.

I'm gonna go ahead and type with one hand and raise the BS flag with the other. Not saying that you weren't told the story, but that the story itself was BS. Can't say I've ever heard of that happening here at BMT. Not to be an A-Hole, but I think it's funny when people who have never been in a certain career field comment on it and say it's cut throat. It's like a trainee in BMT telling another trainee what tech school is like - never been there? Then don't talk about what it's like.