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grove12345
03-05-2009, 07:36 PM
Ok i guess they are now called CREW now, those antennas that blocked cell phone usage to stop IEDs from going off.

Anyways i remember they gave us one that said side effects may be a headache or dehydration. That sounds dangerous.

Me being a gunner and route clearance meant i was exposed to this stuff alot.

Are there any cases of cancer or tumors b/c of this. When i got out of the army i put this down as a complaint in my medical records.I even lined the outside of kevlar with aluminum foil. Which either blocked it or intesify it. LOL

Maybe i should also ask Navy dudes.

WILDJOKER5
03-05-2009, 08:44 PM
Ok i guess they are now called CREW now, those antennas that blocked cell phone usage to stop IEDs from going off.

Anyways i remember they gave us one that said side effects may be a headache or dehydration. That sounds dangerous.

Me being a gunner and route clearance meant i was exposed to this stuff alot.

Are there any cases of cancer or tumors b/c of this. When i got out of the army i put this down as a complaint in my medical records.I even lined the outside of kevlar with aluminum foil. Which either blocked it or intesify it. LOL

Maybe i should also ask Navy dudes.

Your jammer emits a RF signal that is more powerful than cell phones. That is how they stop the signal. As for cancer, in my career field, the cancer cases dont exceed that of any other career field. The signal in close range to a human, will start to penetrate the skin and cook your organs, well, atleast with my equipment that I work on. But my equipment is for airplanes that need to jam signals over a mile away. I assume your antenas are for blocking signals that are couple hundered yards away so there is less power coming from your jammers. Think of it as a micro wave set on the very lowest setting, it will still cook things, but it will take forever for it to happen.

grove12345
03-06-2009, 07:47 PM
i remeber asking this question when we had a high ranked navy secret dude travel with us testing out the jammers we had on a mission. He said unless i was licking it i shouldnt worry.

But Boy was he shocked how these things dont work as well as they hope. I think some of these experts need get out the gate more. We drove by so many people using cell phones, and he was in denial. "no they must be faking it, we are right next to them no way their cell phon works". LOL

apgelf
09-01-2009, 01:04 PM
http://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/documents/FACT/CREWFactSheetjfe12Sep08b.pdf

Please review this fact sheet.

TJMAC77SP
09-01-2009, 04:12 PM
Part of the acceptance of any CREW system is RADHAZ mitigation. The placement of the antenna is often dictated by this issue. Follow the precautions and you should be safe.

I assume you were not in a USMC vehicle with a waveform loaded CREW device operating when the 'high ranked navy secret dude' was on board?

LOAL-D
09-01-2009, 04:16 PM
Don't wrap your legs around the antenna when it's operating...

grove12345
09-02-2009, 12:35 AM
Part of the acceptance of any CREW system is RADHAZ mitigation. The placement of the antenna is often dictated by this issue. Follow the precautions and you should be safe.

I assume you were not in a USMC vehicle with a waveform loaded CREW device operating when the 'high ranked navy secret dude' was on board?

no i was in a buffalo vehicle. Wish i remember the name of the device. But they kept switching them out every 3 months.

I remember we had something called the blowtorch it admit heat signals in front of the vehicle to pre detonate any Passive IR systems. Something that admits enough hazardous waves that it creats a beam of heat in front of it. Ya that lasted about 4 weeks and was disconitnued due to health reasons.

LOAL-D
09-02-2009, 02:39 AM
http://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/documents/FACT/CREWFactSheetjfe12Sep08b.pdf

Please review this fact sheet.

Nothing like a fact sheet from the Army...but I love your faith and trust level...;)

Shrike
09-02-2009, 03:50 AM
Ok i guess they are now called CREW now, those antennas that blocked cell phone usage to stop IEDs from going off.

Anyways i remember they gave us one that said side effects may be a headache or dehydration. That sounds dangerous.

Me being a gunner and route clearance meant i was exposed to this stuff alot.

Are there any cases of cancer or tumors b/c of this. When i got out of the army i put this down as a complaint in my medical records.I even lined the outside of kevlar with aluminum foil. Which either blocked it or intesify it. LOL

Maybe i should also ask Navy dudes.

If you want some technical insight into acceptable exposure rates for different frequency bands, here's a link to AFOSHSTD 48-9, Radio Frequency Radiation Safety Program. (http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFOSHSTD48-9.pdf) Chapter 2 is what you want; it addresses permissible exposure levels.

WILDJOKER5
09-02-2009, 07:27 AM
Dont expect to have anything but girls if you want kids, my career field has about a 90% girl offspring production and we have "protection" to keep the RF from roasting our nads. :D

SFCJackson
09-03-2009, 10:52 AM
Having served as a gunner myself, I can tell you that headaches are the norm (and yes our systems were checked monthly to ensure they were emitting the correct power and frequencies). Also, when the DUKE (what we had on our MRAPs) were turned on, there was audible feedback heard through the gunner's headset.

And yes, I occassionally noticed people who's cell phones would still work as we drove by. Though more often than not we would see people looking at their phones mystified why they suddenly lost their calls. A bit of pleasure in that for me as we drove by.

SFC Jackson