Resting On The Pt Test

[b.f.boyer]

We all know we are allotted 2 min for the push ups and 2 min for the sit ups. I believe we should be able to rest, I mean actually stop and get up off of my arm,s to rest my triceps, and hold myself up to rest my abs on the sit ups. Most males do at least 40 to 50 push ups in a min and for females 20 to 35, but then max out with an additional 15 to 20 more push ups and sit ups, but if you can really rest, no longer than 30 sec though, you are able to achieve more then half of what you have just done increasing a soldiers score significantly, now this would require each individual score keeper to monitor this action closely, my question is why can't this be implemented. I understand the PT test is supposed to test muscular indurance and all that, but if you are carrying something or someone for a period of time to the point of fatigue you will take a rest so you don't drop what ever it is you are carrying. I say this, because everything meaning the army's training is supposed to be geared toward combat readiness, being fit for combat and as a three time vet of the ever popular OIF let me tell you if you are doing something to the point of muscle fatigue regardless of the situation you will seek cover if need be and take a breather to recoup. Just think what tis can do for the all around score. Now you don't have to stop if you choose not to, but I think the choice should be mine to make weather I rest and how. So the question is to rest or not to rest

[RONALD45]

You've got to be kidding, and maybe when we get tired of shooting at the enemy we can throw our hands up and call a 5 minute time out so we can just rest, that way we will be able to refocus our eyes and put down our heavy rifles for a minute so we can kill more of em:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[standstillplease]

In regards to the push-up. Do away with this exercise entirely. It's a very helpful exercise to build strength in an individuals arms. But sadly it only focus's on the triceps. And this is meant to gauge a soldier's upper body strength. Triceps alone are not a end all measure for this. What would be more beneficial if the Army with its infinite wisdom and the powers that be would come to terms and maybe just maybe use the pull-up. We would get better results.

As for resting during the APFT it's just not logical as the two minute duration is to gauge your endurance to begin with.

[Xtreme]

You get a ten minute rest before each event.

[b.f.boyer]

I see where you mean. I am a former MARINE and we did pull ups, but getting the army to change that would take an act of GOD. most ppl in the army can't do 3 let alone try to go at it for 2 min. It is a good idea though.

[b.f.boyer]

Ronald45, you have to be kidding, your killin me dude. :)

[b.f.boyer]

X to the treme, I realize that, the statement was me to see how we could better ppl's score's, because as you know the rest positions allowed don't do anything but fatigue your arms and abs even more. What I'm really trying to say here is that if we want our soldiers to improve and you are able to rest lets give them some realistic rest.

[lofty1380]

i like what the brass have said before of maybe changing from sit ups to marine corps crunches becouse of the injury incured doing sit ups , i also like the addition of pull ups as a test of upper body strength to my understanding in the marine corps they have four events in the pt test but you only have to pass three (please correct me if i am wrong) as for a break i have always had a couple of minutes between events to rest becouse i am always waiting on the females to finish

[mikelentz]

The APFT needs overhauled real bad. Its great that we can run 2 miles, and knock out push-ups and sit-ups, but this is no test of the physical abilities needed in todays operational environment.

Hey, after Korea when the Army developed the precurser to the modern APFT, it fit the times. Knowledge has changed and the test needs to change along with it.

I would rather see how quickly a Soldier can put his or her boots on, instead of push-ups. To me, push-ups mean nothing. I fear the entire Army is too focused on passing the APFT, instead of developing a healthy lifestyle, and working out the entire body, as opposed to a few muscle groups.

[Berry5711]

i like what the brass have said before of maybe changing from sit ups to marine corps crunches becouse of the injury incured doing sit ups , i also like the addition of pull ups as a test of upper body strength to my understanding in the marine corps they have four events in the pt test but you only have to pass three (please correct me if i am wrong) as for a break i have always had a couple of minutes between events to rest becouse i am always waiting on the females to finish

Marine Corps PFT:
Pull-ups: 20 is perfect
Crunches: 100 in 2 min is perfect
3-mile run: 18 min is perfect.

There is no 4th event, you may be thinking of the flex-arm hang for females. They do that instead of pullups and I think they hang for 70 seconds to get perfect.

We also have the Combat Fitness Test now,

880 meter sprint: I think 2:45 is perfect
30 lbs ammo can lift: 91 in 2 min
manuever under fire run: Basically you do some low/high crawls, sprint, fire man carry, run with ammo cans, and throw a grenade in 2:30 (I think that is the perfect time). I think the total length you run and do the "events" in is around 120 yards, not sure though.

[FLAPS]

In regards to the push-up. Do away with this exercise entirely. It's a very helpful exercise to build strength in an individuals arms. But sadly it only focus's on the triceps. And this is meant to gauge a soldier's upper body strength. Triceps alone are not a end all measure for this. What would be more beneficial if the Army with its infinite wisdom and the powers that be would come to terms and maybe just maybe use the pull-up. We would get better results.

As for resting during the APFT it's just not logical as the two minute duration is to gauge your endurance to begin with.

Huh??? The push-up also works your chest....just like a bench press.