View Full Version : RUNNING!!!! Longer distance for a better 1.5?
kajots
08-05-2009, 12:40 PM
Is it beneficial to run longer distances (over 2x as long) to improve your mile and a half run?
There is a current argument going around our workspaces over whether running 3 or 4 miles will improve the 1.5mile run.
The argument is that the endurance built for a 3-4mile run will help lower your 1.5mi time.
On the flip side, there are several strong proponents of "if you have to run 1.5, you should run 1.5 (or even 2).
Can anyone give insight on this, and possibly references?
h0vit0
08-05-2009, 01:17 PM
usually a month prior to my pt test i run 2 to 2.5 miles that should do it i wouldn't do 3 or 4 miles because with that you will run at a slower pace which will kill your score on your run time.
procrastination
08-05-2009, 01:19 PM
References - None that I have time to look for, but I ran track in HS and College (as did lots of people on here) and you ALWAYS train with a combination of endurance and technique.
Since it is fairly easy to run 1.5mi with no training then how could anyone claim that it would HARM your time to train with a longer distance?
The answer - Common sense dictates that it will not. We are trying to run 1.5 in 12 minutes here people... NOT 4 minutes.
When you are training for the Olympics and have a personal coach to work with every morning, then you might want to work on training technique with a 1.5 mile run.
I submit that the latter scenario does not apply to the individual in your office who is asking this question...
kajots
08-05-2009, 01:58 PM
The argument isn't so much over technique or if running longer distances will hurt you (as we all know, it won't), but rather if running long distances will IMPROVE your speed in shorter distances.
Our sqd does little speed work and focuses mostly on longer runs (3-4 miles). That being said, there are still PT failures and we are trying to come up with a cause/solution.
I'm just looking for facts or references to support either argument so we can put this to rest.
BRUWIN
08-05-2009, 03:19 PM
Is it beneficial to run longer distances (over 2x as long) to improve your mile and a half run?
There is a current argument going around our workspaces over whether running 3 or 4 miles will improve the 1.5mile run.
The argument is that the endurance built for a 3-4mile run will help lower your 1.5mi time.
On the flip side, there are several strong proponents of "if you have to run 1.5, you should run 1.5 (or even 2).
Can anyone give insight on this, and possibly references?
The 2.5 loop takes us right past BK.. So no...it's never helped me.
Jefe03
08-05-2009, 03:23 PM
Running the longer distance is the same theory behind baseball players using a weight on their bat when they're on deck. If you're used to doing it the hard way, then it's easier to perform better with less weight, or in this case less distance. Running longer will build and maintain endurance, which is a necessary foundation before one can start building speed. At the same time, running 800m sprints is helpful to build the speed component. The best training method is a mixture of the two.
Kalbo607
08-05-2009, 03:24 PM
2 mile back to front runs should help if done at a good pace.
NRTrackChamp2004
08-05-2009, 03:39 PM
The best training method is a mixture of the two.
ding ding ding! That is correct and the key to successful running of a mile and a half. Building your endurance by running 3-4 miles is good. Because you'll be used to running 3 miles, when it comes time to actually run, when you get finished at 1.5 miles you'll still have plenty of energy left. That extra enery (once obtained by getting endurance up) you can then use for speed. So, it is best to start with endurance, by running 3 or 4 miles. Then practice running sprints, running 1/4 of a mile as fast as you can. Then bump it up to 1/2 mile. And so on and so forth.
Once both speed and endurance are obtained. It is vital to continue to run and practice to keep up your pace. You'll mix it up running, one day doing sprints, and the next day running distance.
But, to answer your original question. Technically, no, running longer distance wont make you run faster. It'll only make the 1.5 miles seem easier. The only way to run it faster, is to run faster.
Yggdrasil
08-05-2009, 03:42 PM
Running a longer distance will help with your endurance (i.e., being able to stick out the 1.5 mile run more comfortably) - this, of course, has positive, although indirect, effect on your run time.
The way to directly improve your run time is through wind sprints while jogging. This gets your legs used to running faster speeds.
h0vit0
08-05-2009, 04:21 PM
put on ankle weights and run a a 2 mile
kobrien22
08-05-2009, 05:24 PM
put on ankle weights and run a a 2 mile
that's a good way to hurt yourself.
I do alot of interval running on my treadmill. I run 1 min at 8.5-9.0mph, then jog at 5mph for 1 min, then repeat that cycle for 15-20 minutes. I never jog/run more than 3 miles at one time. Too hard on my knees........
nomad
08-05-2009, 08:16 PM
Running the longer distance is the same theory behind baseball players using a weight on their bat when they're on deck. If you're used to doing it the hard way, then it's easier to perform better with less weight, or in this case less distance. Running longer will build and maintain endurance, which is a necessary foundation before one can start building speed. At the same time, running 800m sprints is helpful to build the speed component. The best training method is a mixture of the two.
I have to agree with you on that. I did alternating 400m sprint/jog and it really helped my run time. Along with a good pair of running shoes.
FCMVP#30
08-06-2009, 12:15 AM
Neither will matter if the individual doesnt push themselves.
Silver Fox
08-06-2009, 12:55 AM
I would say yes, absolutely, no brainer. Anything that improves your endurance is going to help you over shorter distances. I was running 15 - 18 miles a day for a while, and my 1 and a half mile run time sky rocketed. I got to where I could run a nine minute mile and a half at the tail end of a 15 mile run. I always run for time and not distance though, meaning I run for 1 hour, 2 hours, 3 hours and don't worry about how far I get. Once you get your pace you pretty much get consistent times anyway.
NFCstang
08-06-2009, 10:46 AM
I would say yes, absolutely, no brainer. Anything that improves your endurance is going to help you over shorter distances. I was running 15 - 18 miles a day for a while, and my 1 and a half mile run time sky rocketed. I got to where I could run a nine minute mile and a half at the tail end of a 15 mile run. I always run for time and not distance though, meaning I run for 1 hour, 2 hours, 3 hours and don't worry about how far I get. Once you get your pace you pretty much get consistent times anyway.
If I knew you I'd probably hate you, but since it's the internet, I'll hate you anyway:D
I'm a big guy 6'2ish, 280lbs. I've managed to squeak by a number of PTs tests because I just flat out don't like running.
I can usually go about 30-45 min at a 5.5-6mph pace but god my knees hate me.
ProGlfer88
08-06-2009, 04:30 PM
ding ding ding! That is correct and the key to successful running of a mile and a half. Building your endurance by running 3-4 miles is good. Because you'll be used to running 3 miles, when it comes time to actually run, when you get finished at 1.5 miles you'll still have plenty of energy left. That extra enery (once obtained by getting endurance up) you can then use for speed. So, it is best to start with endurance, by running 3 or 4 miles. Then practice running sprints, running 1/4 of a mile as fast as you can. Then bump it up to 1/2 mile. And so on and so forth.
Once both speed and endurance are obtained. It is vital to continue to run and practice to keep up your pace. You'll mix it up running, one day doing sprints, and the next day running distance.
But, to answer your original question. Technically, no, running longer distance wont make you run faster. It'll only make the 1.5 miles seem easier. The only way to run it faster, is to run faster.
The only way to run it faster, is to run faster
Can't say it any better than that.
Silver Fox
08-06-2009, 08:42 PM
If I knew you I'd probably hate you, but since it's the internet, I'll hate you anyway:D
I'm a big guy 6'2ish, 280lbs. I've managed to squeak by a number of PTs tests because I just flat out don't like running.
I can usually go about 30-45 min at a 5.5-6mph pace but god my knees hate me.
That's alright stang, it's hate I'll bear. :p I hated running my whole life until about 15 months ago, then one day after a run was over I was just like, "Man that felt good." So I said "I wonder how long I can run without stopping?" I ended up doing five miles. So I ended up doing five miles a day for a while. Then one day we had a 3 mile "fun run", and after we finished, I still felt like running, so I did another five miles. So I said, "Man, if I can do eight..... SURELY I can do ten." So I did ten. Then fifteen. Then eighteen. Then was like "fuck it I might as well run a marathon and say I did it...." It was all mental for me, once I convinced myself that it wasn't going to kill me, it wasn't that bad. I don't ever stretch either, it doesn't do me any good it seems. I'm 6' 177lbs. The most I ever weighed in my life was 192 pounds after working out in Iraq everyday for nearly 11 months and beefing up a bit.
NFCstang
08-07-2009, 04:46 AM
That's alright stang, it's hate I'll bear. :p I hated running my whole life until about 15 months ago, then one day after a run was over I was just like, "Man that felt good." So I said "I wonder how long I can run without stopping?" I ended up doing five miles. So I ended up doing five miles a day for a while. Then one day we had a 3 mile "fun run", and after we finished, I still felt like running, so I did another five miles. So I said, "Man, if I can do eight..... SURELY I can do ten." So I did ten. Then fifteen. Then eighteen. Then was like "fuck it I might as well run a marathon and say I did it...." It was all mental for me, once I convinced myself that it wasn't going to kill me, it wasn't that bad. I don't ever stretch either, it doesn't do me any good it seems. I'm 6' 177lbs. The most I ever weighed in my life was 192 pounds after working out in Iraq everyday for nearly 11 months and beefing up a bit.
Yea, I'm back up to 3-4 miles a day but it still sucks....
Speakit
08-09-2009, 09:48 AM
The Key to the 1.5 mile run is to do just that "run", if you’re walking half-way through the first lap then you my friend are out of shape. Before you can contemplate running a longer distance you need to finish the shorter distance, running, not sprint walking, not speed walking just running. If you run at a steady pace slow or not you will meet the time requirements. Some just need to push themselves more, get actual running shoes, stop depending on some magic potions before the run and put balls to the walls, and run.
BRAVO10000
08-09-2009, 03:20 PM
From what I have read...the best way to improve your speed is to do interval training for a period of TIME, without regard to distance. Runner's World suggests beginning with 2-minute runs with 2 minute walks (foir the NOVICE), gradually running longer between walks from week to week. The training should not be on consecutive days. When running thiis version, it isn't a jog or a sprint, but you have to RUN. Pitfalls associated with trying to "train to" the 1.5 mile run are the simple fact that people do hit a plateau.
The AF Senior NCO Academy has a pretty good program for this. They mix up regular "straight running" with "four corners". They have the classes broken into SPEED groups based on an initial PT assessment. Each week, the straight runs go 5 minutes longer than the week prior. It starts at 20 minutes and ends at 45 minutes. That's after about a 20 minute warm-up, and is followed by a 15-20 minute cooldown.
Gotta tell ya, the impact is visible - and this is a group of our oldst folks, most without a history (or interest) in running. They certainly sold it to me. I was running better in just 2 weeks' time.
sanguines
08-10-2009, 12:12 PM
The only way to get better at running is by running.
I'm like Silver Fox - I hated it until 2 years ago or so, when I realized I actually sorta loved it. I ran my first marathon 2 weeks ago and it was a great experience. So great, in fact, that I'm doing it again in December!
If you get out there and run, you will get better at running. Walk if you have to - that's ok! - but don't quit. Don't be one of the (as I like to call them) "five minute fatbodies", who get on the treadmill, run for 5 minutes, and think "Whew!" and leave. I'd recommend 3 miles a day, 3 days a week, and intervals (perhaps 30s sprint, 2 mins jog, 5-8 repeats with warm and cool) twice a week with crosstraining on the weekends. It'll cost you less than an hour a day and will vastly improve your running.
To 280 lb guy who says his knees hurt: are you surprised? Drop 100 pounds - your knees will feel better. :P
NFCstang
08-10-2009, 05:18 PM
To 280 lb guy who says his knees hurt: are you surprised? Drop 100 pounds - your knees will feel better. :P
Considering that was me...ain't gonna happen. 30 years of soccer, downhill ski racing and rugby have done them in. I can do my 1.5 fairly easily but I've never liked running more then 3 miles at a time and I don't think I'm going to start now
But considering I've been 230+ since HS and have managed to pass my PT tests I'll be ok.
I might be able to get down to the 240 range again when I decide to retire from rugby, but I'm fighting family genetics as well. My only 2 cousins on my dads side are 6'5 260 and 6'9 330 (he's the right tackle for Notre Dame.)
AFKILO7
08-10-2009, 06:41 PM
I can't stand running, I hate it! But we have a PT guru in my unit who isn't like some, he isn't an asshole. When we do PT he doesn't talk down to people who aren't in the same physical shape he is in. Anyways...he had us doing interval training on the track here. We started out jogging the straights and sprinting the turns, we did this for a mile and half. Then over the course of the past month he would add in a set of stairs on the stands (not metal bleachers but actual stadium seating) after each lap and 10 push ups, 20 situps. Well my run time has improved by almost 2:00!
Silver Fox
08-10-2009, 08:50 PM
From what I have read...the best way to improve your speed is to do interval training for a period of TIME, without regard to distance.
This is true, I run for an hour, two hours, three hours, etc. without regard to distance, it just usually ends up being the same distance everytime.
The Key to the 1.5 mile run is to do just that "run", if you’re walking half-way through the first lap then you my friend are out of shape. Before you can contemplate running a longer distance you need to finish the shorter distance, running, not sprint walking, not speed walking just running. If you run at a steady pace slow or not you will meet the time requirements. Some just need to push themselves more, get actual running shoes, stop depending on some magic potions before the run and put balls to the walls, and run.
I tried exactly what you said, and it killed my time on the 1.5 mile run. I was up to 3 miles on my runs, but the pace was slow, so when I did the PT test I was alternating between fast runs and my long-distance pace. I found that I can actually walk a forced-march pace faster, and more efficiently, than I can run at my long distance pace.
A month or two ago, I talked with a guy at the Cooper Institute, he trains the PTLs for the Air Force, and he also said that it was the wrong thing to do.
He said to just do intervals, run as far as you can as fast as you can, walk until you recover, repeat.
I've never been a good runner, so I solicited advice, and got a lot of responses like yours, which resulted in over a year of wasted training. I was doing intervals on a regular basis before, but quit doing those and switched to the long-distance runs when I had to start running on the PT test a year and a half ago (switched over from the Guard, which just started using the new test in 2008, same time I switched to the Reserves).
MrMiracle
01-22-2010, 02:35 PM
I took the test, and have watched a number of other folks take the PT test lately. I made a few observations about the way a variety of individuals conduct their runs, with particular emphasis on the techniques they used.
Some observations I made about the poorer runners:
- Excess vertical movement. Many runners bounce up and down entirely too much when they run. This reduces the efficiency of each step. Vertical movement suggests that too much of your backstep is being used to push your body upward instead of forward.
- Stomping / Loud steps. In the real world, running on uneven ground, you need to pick up your feet to make sure you don't trip. Most bases do their testing on a track or relatively flat street. It isn't necessary to take a giant vertical step (although it does feel more natural). Practicing with a lower, sweeping step is a better running technique for the test. Stomping also indicates that a runner is allowing their body to fall too far forward before 'catching' their weight with the next step. This also wastes energy and can even cause gradually cumulative damage to the knees.
- Barely swinging arms or not swinging arms at all. The body functions like a pendulum when it runs. An earlier poster suggested putting weight on your legs when you run. While this isn't a very good idea, the overall effect is that your arms will take longer swings with each step. When you remove the weights, your longer arm swings will conversely help your body balance into a bigger step.
navysailor2004
01-22-2010, 03:59 PM
Run 2-2.5miles but aim for the same time that you want on your PT test, this should help make your time faster.
garhkal
01-22-2010, 04:23 PM
Is it beneficial to run longer distances (over 2x as long) to improve your mile and a half run?
There is a current argument going around our workspaces over whether running 3 or 4 miles will improve the 1.5mile run.
The argument is that the endurance built for a 3-4mile run will help lower your 1.5mi time.
On the flip side, there are several strong proponents of "if you have to run 1.5, you should run 1.5 (or even 2).
Can anyone give insight on this, and possibly references?
I know when i got on the "Fitness enhancement program (fatboy) in england for failing a run (like 40% of the command did), we spent a lot of time running 5ks... And the next test after my second failure (running that same course, which got canxed due to the LOTS of failures using it) i had my fastest run time ever...
NMWH1985
03-07-2010, 03:48 PM
The problem is that people train for the test.
The test is supposed to measure your overall fitness. So work out with that in mind.
When I work out on my own, I mix in Crossfit metcons with heavy (full body, not isolation - squats, deadlifts, benches, and cleans) lifts and 3-4 mile runs.
On my runs I usually do them on a treadmill or outside with a Garment and try to maintain a certain pace, always trying to make sure my next run is better than my last.
There's no silver bullet. Push your body 3-5 days a week, and then spend a few days a week resting. Pushing your body does not mean diddling around with the Nautilus machines or reading a magazine while on the Elliptical.
Work till you're dizzy, rehydrate, rest, repeat.
RivetJockey
08-26-2010, 07:28 AM
Well, when you're looking at your training you need to look at two concepts. Speed and endurance. These aren't just buzz words, they also have to do with your muscle groups. Fast twitch muscles will give you speed, but little endurance (these burn sugar for energy). While slow twitch muscle groups will give you endurance, or the ability to go longer, but little speed (these burn fat for energy). These muscle groups have different ways of "activating" and training them.
You fast twitch muscles respond better to quick stimulation and more weight over less time, such as sprinting, and weight training. To work these out you can go back to your basic training running workout. Build up your heart rate with an even pace, then work in sprints and run/jog sections. Add on extra weight for runs, either on your legs or using weight vests (I know a few BXs sell them). You can also work them with weight training like squats and leg presses. While it has little to do with your runs, it may help your push-up and sit-ups to know that anaerobic exercises work and train the fastest muscle fibers in your body.
(NOTE! Do not try running anaerobically, or what is known as holding your breath, running three steps, and falling on your face).
Your slow twitch muscle fibers respond better to slow stimulation and longer time spent training. These are the muscle fibers that translate to your endurance, or how long you can run without enduring any problems. These muscle fibers also burn fat for energy, so for dropping the extra pounds, training these will do you better. You can train these by not running long distance (necessarily) but by running for a long period of time. Constant stimulation of slow twitch muscle fibers is necessary to train them and improve your endurance. These red muscle fibers are better trained through aerobic activity rather than anaerobic.
You need a mixture of these two. To improve running you need anaerobic and fast twitch muscle fiber training to improve speed, but you also need aerobic slow twitch muscle fiber training to improve oxygen flow and endurance.
old blue jeans
08-26-2010, 08:00 AM
Well, when you're looking at your training you need to look at two concepts. Speed and endurance. These aren't just buzz words, they also have to do with your muscle groups. Fast twitch muscles will give you speed, but little endurance (these burn sugar for energy). While slow twitch muscle groups will give you endurance, or the ability to go longer, but little speed (these burn fat for energy). These muscle groups have different ways of "activating" and training them.
You fast twitch muscles respond better to quick stimulation and more weight over less time, such as sprinting, and weight training. To work these out you can go back to your basic training running workout. Build up your heart rate with an even pace, then work in sprints and run/jog sections. Add on extra weight for runs, either on your legs or using weight vests (I know a few BXs sell them). You can also work them with weight training like squats and leg presses. While it has little to do with your runs, it may help your push-up and sit-ups to know that anaerobic exercises work and train the fastest muscle fibers in your body.
(NOTE! Do not try running anaerobically, or what is known as holding your breath, running three steps, and falling on your face).
Your slow twitch muscle fibers respond better to slow stimulation and longer time spent training. These are the muscle fibers that translate to your endurance, or how long you can run without enduring any problems. These muscle fibers also burn fat for energy, so for dropping the extra pounds, training these will do you better. You can train these by not running long distance (necessarily) but by running for a long period of time. Constant stimulation of slow twitch muscle fibers is necessary to train them and improve your endurance. These red muscle fibers are better trained through aerobic activity rather than anaerobic.
You need a mixture of these two. To improve running you need anaerobic and fast twitch muscle fiber training to improve speed, but you also need aerobic slow twitch muscle fiber training to improve oxygen flow and endurance.
I agree distance running is necessary for improvement, but running with leg weights or weighed vests? The leg weights are dangerous; they change one's stride and invite injury. Weighted vests are hazardous, too; the added weight increases the impact and only further stresses one's joints.
Please reconsider this practice. Serious runners run. They lift weights in the weight room.
spirit_eyes
08-26-2010, 12:06 PM
once upon a year, i did the 1.5 mile runs. and when i failed one, i built myself up, and trained. i did mainly 1.5 mile runs, but also threw in some 5k, etc. i was going for endurance. and when it came time for the test, i blew it away.
few years later, i turned to swimmiing (my knees were also shot). and i swam for hours. i would do 100 laps in an olypimic size pool, at one time. came time for the test, i blew it away. (would have done better, if there was actually someone to compete against)
bottom line? endurance training is good. helps build lungs, etc. but speed training is needed also. (ps, try running in a gentle warm rain. everytime i did that, i could run my longest distance ever)
INGUARD
08-26-2010, 02:18 PM
remember breathing as well. keep your breathing relaxed and inhale for every three steps and exhale for every three. That will help the stiches from coming. But you have to run at least 3 times a week to train.
RivetJockey
08-26-2010, 03:26 PM
I agree distance running is necessary for improvement, but running with leg weights or weighed vests? The leg weights are dangerous; they change one's stride and invite injury. Weighted vests are hazardous, too; the added weight increases the impact and only further stresses one's joints.
Please reconsider this practice. Serious runners run. They lift weights in the weight room.
Like any exercise, especially any exercise involving weights, you have to do it right or you invite injury. Even simply running has a right and wrong way to it. If you're running on your heel, then yes, you're going to hurt your joints a lot more. If you're running on the ball of your foot, then your knee and ankle joints are less effected. The impact of running with a weighted vest and leg weights that's no more than 15-20 pounds over having to run in full gear or with a full pack as military members in other services do, and as you may be required to do in a combat situation, is so minimal that it's hard to compare. Even running with a full camel back adds weight to you as you run, and it's certainly not an uncommon sight.
Does running with weights work your joints more? Yes, but it's not dangerous. Even if you stop paying attention to what you're doing and/or if you're running the wrong way in the first place, you're still in no danger adding a minimal amount of weight to your body.
This actually brings me to a good point, running the right way is more important in the long run than any other type of exercise you can do. Even if you pass the test a dozen times, you can still blow out your knees and ankles if you run the wrong way.
The correct, less-joint-impact way to run is landing on the ball of your foot (the cushioned area right after your toes), then setting your heel to the ground. If you run landing with your heel, all the shock of that landing goes straight up your bones from the ankle, right past your knee and can even damage your femur, hip, and lower back.
Landing with the ball of your foot acts as a natural shock absorber. The impact of the landing leads the back of the foot down, touching the heel to the ground, the knee and ankle bend to accommodate it, and the damage is not absorbed by your bones, it's worked out through your leg muscles without damaging them.
Chief Bosun
09-07-2010, 04:40 PM
Gonna weigh in here without having waded through all the posts.
My experience - yes running longer distances will help you reduce your time for the 1.5 mile run. In fact some of my best times in the PFA came while I was training to run 10-milers. Some of the training runs were in excess of 10 miles and for time.
Training is year-round. Soon as you finish the PFA, take a couple of days off, then get hot and turn to on getting ready for the next one. Just make sure you program a rest day or two into the week so you don't risk injury from overuse.
Ankle weights - ditch them. They'll throw off your stride. Train with the clothing and shoes you would wear for the event. If you really want some extra weight on your feet get a pair of government-issue combat boots with high-end insoles and wear them on some of your runs. I can run the PFA in my combat boots in about 14 minutes, which isn't bad for a 54 year-old retiree. My last PFA run before I retired I did in 8:54. Not bad for a (at the time) 50 year old Chief.
One other observation - watch your weight. The extra weight will slow you down, even if you tape within standards. Try to balance the strength training, cardio training, and diet to help you keep yourself within the height/weight standards.
The Cooler
12-10-2010, 01:26 AM
start out hard and finish harder with everything you've got. your times will improve.
Space-cat
09-13-2011, 02:17 PM
[Since it is fairly easy to run 1.5mi with no training then how could anyone claim that it would HARM your time to train with a longer distance?
The answer - Common sense dictates that it will not. We are trying to run 1.5 in 12 minutes here people... NOT 4 minutes.]
You sound like youre a person that is built for running. I am not and there are many people who are better suited for strength than running. For me running a 3 mile to prep for a 1.5 mile will not work. It completely changes my pace if I know I'm going to attempt to run the entire 3 miles without walking. For me I've always practiced the 1.5 mile where it will be tested with a stopwatch in my hand. This gives me concrete information about my pace. I know what score I need to get but I don't want to kill myself either at the end if I've slowed down any on the 3rd or 4th lap. Doing it this way I can always get below 1230 and pass the entire test.
spirit_eyes
09-13-2011, 02:26 PM
wow space cat, found a thread from the basement. :)
ok, i hated the pt run with a passion. granted, i had a lot more time, but the basics are the same.
trying to do the run in 12 min? better be at the half way point no later than 5:30, as it takes alot longer to get back (you're winded and tired).
i still stand behind endurance training. push the body past what it's going to need, and it'll be easier on you. no need to be over at the gutter with the other losers. :P
and yes, i did my fair share, etc of pt.
usn ret.
MarineSgtG
02-13-2012, 01:10 AM
I would tend to agree with those who say the endurance training is key. There are several factors that will really set your improvement apart from mediocre, though, and it involves a multi-facet approach (also known as whole-body fitness). The stronger your entire body is, the more efficiently you can work out. If you aren't strength training (all the muscle groups in your body) along with your cardio, you're cheating yourself out of an important aspect of your fitness routine.
I struggled both with weight and run times for the better part of the last decade, partly due to having four children during that time, and partly due to the vast amount of misinformation out there. What worked well for me for getting run times down was mixing up my workouts. On primarily running days, I'd usually do a solid, all-out run for the distance tested (for me it's 3 miles) then do interval training for the rest of the hour. This usually resulted in around 7.5-8 miles during the course of an hour, and it was worth it! I too hated running but I found that even if my initial 3 miles were slightly slower, forcing the interval training at the end, when I normally would have stopped, gave me a second to recover but still forced my body to push into reserve energy. The first 3 miles would take about 23-24 minutes, then I alternated into a 2 minute sprint, 1 minute jog/walk pattern. The more often I did this, the faster I saw my times get, but I was always pushing myself really hard that first 3 miles. On weight training days, I would throw a sprint session in between each of my sets. I'd start by running 2-3 miles, depending on how lazy I was feeling, then do a weight circuit set, then sprint either for a distance (with the goal of improving time) or a time (with the goal of running further). Each circuit set was usually between 4 and 6 different exercises for that muscle group. This method was extremely effective. I combined that with a decrease in caloric intake during my last deployment and lost about 35 lbs in about 6 weeks. I realize this is extremely quick weight loss, but it was what my body needed, and I've been able to maintain it for nearly a year now. The weight loss also translated into an easier time running, which also helped with the run times. Also helpful is putting another form of cardio into your workout cycle that you can do for a significant amount of time such as cycling (on the road not in the gym), swimming, etc.
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