Army Basic? Say It Isn't So!!!

[Yggdrasil]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDarXwWCoNg&feature=related

WTF is THIS? Is this just Ft. Leonard Wood, or is it all like this? That Drill Sergeant had to ask that female private nicely to go to that stall! WTF??

[princesso8788]

Cake walk ,,,,when you condiser how it was 20 years ago when I was in. Boot Camp is more like Boy Scout Camp now.

[jimmyeddy]

it isnt so my friend heres the trick with the army you see in the marines everyone gets the same basic training whether your a cook or force recon you all start the same in the army tho if your a cook your not goin to recieve the same basic training as an infantrymen infantry osut and cav scout osut are still wicked tough in fact the infantry training is bein bumped up a notch within the next few years theyre making rucks longer and more often they will be adding combat pt excersizes much like the marines and so on and so forth trust me the army isnt a cake walk unless your a pog dont belive what they say so if u want a challenge its infantry all the way HOOAH!

[Rizzo77]

I'm an oldster and went through basic in 1985. My basic at LWood had no chicks, but it was still easy. I can't imagine how much more lame basic training can become.

[candycane3482]

I went to Leonardwood in 2004 - and no one asked any of us females - or anyone - to do anything politely. Hell they didn't even "ask" us to do anything - they told us to and we listened and executed. I couldn't watch the video on my computer but I hate to see what it is. I heard now privates get to keep their phones in basic or some crap?!?

[candycane3482]

it isnt so my friend heres the trick with the army you see in the marines everyone gets the same basic training whether your a cook or force recon you all start the same in the army tho if your a cook your not goin to recieve the same basic training as an infantrymen infantry osut and cav scout osut are still wicked tough in fact the infantry training is bein bumped up a notch within the next few years theyre making rucks longer and more often they will be adding combat pt excersizes much like the marines and so on and so forth trust me the army isnt a cake walk unless your a pog dont belive what they say so if u want a challenge its infantry all the way HOOAH!

You know what - you can try to demean those of us who aren't infantry but every job is important. If it weren't for "pogs" or "fobbits" then how would your leave get processed? Or how would you get a security clearance when you need one? Or someone to answer the radio when you need a MEDEVAC?

Pretty soon everyone's going to do the 'combat' exercises or PRT not just infantry. Basic training for non-infantry is obviously different but everyone learns basic soldier skills in basic training regardless of your MOS.

I think you also need to learn some grammar and punctuation if you want to get a point across.

[TJMAC77SP]

it isnt so my friend heres the trick with the army you see in the marines everyone gets the same basic training whether your a cook or force recon you all start the same in the army tho if your a cook your not goin to recieve the same basic training as an infantrymen infantry osut and cav scout osut are still wicked tough in fact the infantry training is bein bumped up a notch within the next few years theyre making rucks longer and more often they will be adding combat pt excersizes much like the marines and so on and so forth trust me the army isnt a cake walk unless your a pog dont belive what they say so if u want a challenge its infantry all the way HOOAH!

Not true. Depends on the location and even on the unit. My son just graduated from BCT at Ft Jackson in October and on graduation day he was comparing notes with a friend who had gone to BCT at Ft Benning last summer and had just graduated from Infantry AIT this summer (ARNG Split Option). In several instances, the physical requirements for my son't BCT Company exeeded that of the training at Benning.

[TJMAC77SP]

I think you also need to learn some grammar and punctuation if you want to get a point across.

Good on 'ya !! A lesser person would have made a crack about the relative intelligence of Infantry troops.............

[candycane3482]

Good on 'ya !! A lesser person would have made a crack about the relative intelligence of Infantry troops.............

Because I know how wrong perceptions or stereotypes are. That's like people thinking combat engineers were all stupid. A lot of them had higher GT scores than I did and people assume if you're in intel you're super smart. HA! I know there are infantry guys who are smart. You don't have to be stupid to be infantry or SF or something like that - just crazy! Lol jk. (Well you have to be nuts to be SF or Delta or something like that).

[candycane3482]

Because I know how wrong perceptions or stereotypes are. That's like people thinking combat engineers were all stupid. A lot of them had higher GT scores than I did and people assume if you're in intel you're super smart. HA! I know there are infantry guys who are smart. You don't have to be stupid to be infantry or SF or something like that - just crazy! Lol jk. (Well you have to be nuts to be SF or Delta or something like that).

Although, when I see sentences lacking punctuation or just put together wrong I get irritated. On these things I let some stuff go and I'm not perfect at typing on here but sometimes if I can't read the sentences because they run together...yeah I say something lol.

[E4RUMOR]

I think it's all on where you attend basic training. I'm not in the Army, but I'll tell you there is a distinct difference between young soldiers and young Marines, from what I have observed. I've been to Ft. LeonardWood three separate times... twice in two week segments, and one time in a two month segment.

Frankly, they are not very disciplined. I had a Private in the Army say "Thanks Dude", even though I was in uniform and could clearly be identified as a Sergeant. The Private received a nice verbal ass-chewing. I've observed them walking and talking with cellphones in uniform, and smoke and walk in uniform, or chew gum and walk in uniform.

While I was walking with a Marine Lieutenant, four Army Privates walked right past him after looking right at him, and did not render a salute. The Sergeant in me came out and four Army Privates were standing at Parade Rest for about a good five minutes.

The guidance given to us visiting the installations is not to have or make contact with the junior Army soldiers... for any reason. However, I've had a couple Army Drill Sergeants talk to me on the side and tell me that if they need to be corrected, then go for it.

My second stop was at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky. Same problems. It's one thing for a Marine to say something about it.. but it's a whole different ballpark when you're talking to Sergeants, Staff Sergeants, Drill Sergeants, and higher enlisted Army ranks complaining and saying the same thing.

I have contemplated at one time getting out of the Corps and switching to join the Army.. for personal and family reasons. However, all I have to do is go to an Army base and I'm reminded why that's a bad idea. I have met some great soldiers who have greatly impressed me and who I like very much and find them as competent, if not more competent than some Marines I know. But I shudder to think about the future of the Army based off the new Soldiers coming in and their lack of discipline.

Don't worry.. we're having the same problem in the Corps too.. but we're much smaller.. so it's a little easier to squash and handle.

[candycane3482]

I think it's all on where you attend basic training. I'm not in the Army, but I'll tell you there is a distinct difference between young soldiers and young Marines, from what I have observed. I've been to Ft. LeonardWood three separate times... twice in two week segments, and one time in a two month segment.

Frankly, they are not very disciplined. I had a Private in the Army say "Thanks Dude", even though I was in uniform and could clearly be identified as a Sergeant. The Private received a nice verbal ass-chewing. I've observed them walking and talking with cellphones in uniform, and smoke and walk in uniform, or chew gum and walk in uniform.

While I was walking with a Marine Lieutenant, four Army Privates walked right past him after looking right at him, and did not render a salute. The Sergeant in me came out and four Army Privates were standing at Parade Rest for about a good five minutes.

The guidance given to us visiting the installations is not to have or make contact with the junior Army soldiers... for any reason. However, I've had a couple Army Drill Sergeants talk to me on the side and tell me that if they need to be corrected, then go for it.

My second stop was at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky. Same problems. It's one thing for a Marine to say something about it.. but it's a whole different ballpark when you're talking to Sergeants, Staff Sergeants, Drill Sergeants, and higher enlisted Army ranks complaining and saying the same thing.

I have contemplated at one time getting out of the Corps and switching to join the Army.. for personal and family reasons. However, all I have to do is go to an Army base and I'm reminded why that's a bad idea. I have met some great soldiers who have greatly impressed me and who I like very much and find them as competent, if not more competent than some Marines I know. But I shudder to think about the future of the Army based off the new Soldiers coming in and their lack of discipline.

Don't worry.. we're having the same problem in the Corps too.. but we're much smaller.. so it's a little easier to squash and handle.

Trust me it wasn't like that when I was in basic and that was only six years ago. It's because drill sergeants have their hands tied behind their back and can't train and discipline soldiers anymore in basic and NCOs we can't do anything or else we get accused of being "too hard" on them. I was accused of being "too hard" on my soldier. I told my OIC that damn right, ma'am. My NCOIC even told me that!! I told them both of course I am. He needs to learn our job and he's not. He acts like I owe him the world and that he doesn't have to act like a soldier at all. He thought that the world revolved around him and I made him realize differently. I also think he had a problem with women as his leaders - especially those who didn't fawn all over him. When our OIC was being nice to him and yelling at me, he thought she was cool. When she had to work with him more, she realized I was right and then was hard on him too. He got mad and called her a bitch (not to her face) and I had to chew him about that.

It's because kids today are raised with this idea that they are owed the world. It's because we think we have to give all kids a ribbon or a medal even if they don't win. That doesn't teach a kid anything. I think they did something like that when I was little at our track meets in elementary school. If you didn't place you got a ribbon. That made me feel worse than losing!! Also kids are spoiled and undisciplined because parents are afraid of their kids. The government is too intrusive into trying to parent our kids and tell Americans how to raise them. So they come into the Army with that attitude and the Army...I don't know. But I definitely do NOT like the fact they have cell phones in basic. Wait til you get to AIT and earn the right. I failed my record PT test in AIT so I didn't get phase AND I had to wait until graduation morning to retake it. So I was phase 4 basically the whole time (like a brand new private) but that's because I failed. I didn't feel owed anything, that was my fault. I just used to have trouble with situps and my form. I worked at it and figured it out.

They need to stop babying privates and junior enlisted soldiers. I don't care if it's a "new" type of soldier. 9 weeks of basic I never even saw a newspaper and the pay phone call for 2 minutes was like winning the lottery. That's what these kids need.

But I love the Army - just not the people in it!

[E4RUMOR]

It's because kids today are raised with this idea that they are owed the world. It's because we think we have to give all kids a ribbon or a medal even if they don't win. That doesn't teach a kid anything. I think they did something like that when I was little at our track meets in elementary school. If you didn't place you got a ribbon. That made me feel worse than losing!! Also kids are spoiled and undisciplined because parents are afraid of their kids. The government is too intrusive into trying to parent our kids and tell Americans how to raise them. So they come into the Army with that attitude and the Army...I don't know. But I definitely do NOT like the fact they have cell phones in basic. Wait til you get to AIT and earn the right. I failed my record PT test in AIT so I didn't get phase AND I had to wait until graduation morning to retake it. So I was phase 4 basically the whole time (like a brand new private) but that's because I failed. I didn't feel owed anything, that was my fault. I just used to have trouble with situps and my form. I worked at it and figured it out.

They need to stop babying privates and junior enlisted soldiers. I don't care if it's a "new" type of soldier. 9 weeks of basic I never even saw a newspaper and the pay phone call for 2 minutes was like winning the lottery. That's what these kids need.

But I love the Army - just not the people in it!

I think you hit the nail on the head here. It's a continuing trend in today's society, and I think that we're all aware of it. The problem is that there is a breakdown WITHIN the Armed Forces. It's the leadership.

If you look at history, and the purpose behind the Non-Commissioned Officer, or even the promotion warrant of a Non-Commissioned Officer, both outline the responsibilities of the NCO. Part of the responsibility is maintaining good order and discipline. When the Army and the Marine Corps were boosting their numbers, many undeserving and immature individuals were being promoted to Corporal and Sergeant. They did not possess the intestinal fortitude to enforce order and discipline, and allowed their junior soldiers or Marines to "get away with murder". The Staff NCOs and Officers lost faith in the NCO corps because of the rise of incidents taking place within their units. As a result, they took over and stripped NCOs of their power because they were no longer trusted.

It's our responsiblity to step up and take charge again. And we should. There are far more NCOs in the Armed Forces than Staff NCOs or Officers...

As long as we know the UCMJ and what's within regulations, and we are professional, we cannot be touched by higher authority when correcting a subordinate. However, along those lines comes our personal character both on and off duty. We cannot expect our subordinates to conduct themselves a certain way if we fail to follow the guidelines which we are trying to enforce.

I fear that at this point, though, we've gone so far down the wrong path, the stretch of our influence is merely limited to the unit in which we serve.

[INGUARD]

Trust me it wasn't like that when I was in basic and that was only six years ago. It's because drill sergeants have their hands tied behind their back and can't train and discipline soldiers anymore in basic and NCOs we can't do anything or else we get accused of being "too hard" on them. I was accused of being "too hard" on my soldier. I told my OIC that damn right, ma'am. My NCOIC even told me that!! I told them both of course I am. He needs to learn our job and he's not. He acts like I owe him the world and that he doesn't have to act like a soldier at all. He thought that the world revolved around him and I made him realize differently. I also think he had a problem with women as his leaders - especially those who didn't fawn all over him. When our OIC was being nice to him and yelling at me, he thought she was cool. When she had to work with him more, she realized I was right and then was hard on him too. He got mad and called her a bitch (not to her face) and I had to chew him about that.

It's because kids today are raised with this idea that they are owed the world. It's because we think we have to give all kids a ribbon or a medal even if they don't win. That doesn't teach a kid anything. I think they did something like that when I was little at our track meets in elementary school. If you didn't place you got a ribbon. That made me feel worse than losing!! Also kids are spoiled and undisciplined because parents are afraid of their kids. The government is too intrusive into trying to parent our kids and tell Americans how to raise them. So they come into the Army with that attitude and the Army...I don't know. But I definitely do NOT like the fact they have cell phones in basic. Wait til you get to AIT and earn the right. I failed my record PT test in AIT so I didn't get phase AND I had to wait until graduation morning to retake it. So I was phase 4 basically the whole time (like a brand new private) but that's because I failed. I didn't feel owed anything, that was my fault. I just used to have trouble with situps and my form. I worked at it and figured it out.

They need to stop babying privates and junior enlisted soldiers. I don't care if it's a "new" type of soldier. 9 weeks of basic I never even saw a newspaper and the pay phone call for 2 minutes was like winning the lottery. That's what these kids need.

But I love the Army - just not the people in it!

Well that person that you do not like; might just save your ass someday.

And 6 years ago when I was at Fort Campbell, I came across alot of un-sat individuals but at the same token; soldiers that usually serve at a division are more tightly wrapped then soldiers at different bases.

I am a product of both Army and Marine Corps basic and boot camps from the 80s and soldiers in this decade (especially the ones who came in after the war on terror) are a total different breed. A give me generation that wants but doesnt want to earn it.

I started out at E-1 and just do not like how the Army handles their promotions but its a very big organization, so I understand its purpose.

If you are a squared-away NCO, you do not gripe about stuff (e.g. PT) and how the Army is not what you expected. If you do not like how it is; then there is always a civilian job waiting. Stop going past your first hitch because its the economy. You are not a true asset unless you embody what the military is about.

I do miss my years as an NCO but by crossing-over I cannot longer engage but still observe with bewilderment and sadness are what has transpired over the years.

[mel44]

Why if once a marine always a marine did you leave? you served from 87-91 thats not ver long.

[candycane3482]

I think you hit the nail on the head here. It's a continuing trend in today's society, and I think that we're all aware of it. The problem is that there is a breakdown WITHIN the Armed Forces. It's the leadership.

If you look at history, and the purpose behind the Non-Commissioned Officer, or even the promotion warrant of a Non-Commissioned Officer, both outline the responsibilities of the NCO. Part of the responsibility is maintaining good order and discipline. When the Army and the Marine Corps were boosting their numbers, many undeserving and immature individuals were being promoted to Corporal and Sergeant. They did not possess the intestinal fortitude to enforce order and discipline, and allowed their junior soldiers or Marines to "get away with murder". The Staff NCOs and Officers lost faith in the NCO corps because of the rise of incidents taking place within their units. As a result, they took over and stripped NCOs of their power because they were no longer trusted.

It's our responsiblity to step up and take charge again. And we should. There are far more NCOs in the Armed Forces than Staff NCOs or Officers...

As long as we know the UCMJ and what's within regulations, and we are professional, we cannot be touched by higher authority when correcting a subordinate. However, along those lines comes our personal character both on and off duty. We cannot expect our subordinates to conduct themselves a certain way if we fail to follow the guidelines which we are trying to enforce.

I fear that at this point, though, we've gone so far down the wrong path, the stretch of our influence is merely limited to the unit in which we serve.

I'll agree with that. It's hard to do your job as a NCO when your leadership tells you that you're doing your job wrong. Half the trouble I had with my soldier the last two years in my old unit was that my OIC and one of the NCOICs I had would just baby him - mainly in Iraq when we had to spend more time around each other. It was always "you're too hard on him" but the damn kid wouldn't listen. He always played the mommy, daddy game. If I said no to something, he'd go around me to the NCOIC or OIC, and mostly the OIC when we didn't have a NCOIC (and I sort of was the NCOIC). That irritated the crap out of me. Oh I negatively counseled him - it was usually for him being late. He got corrective training but it wasn't smoking the crap out of him. I really don't think that works on most people and especially on him. I rarely dropped him because it wouldn't have done any good. Plus corrective training has to fit whatever they did wrong. Plus "smoking" became considered hazing when we got a new brigade commander. So we couldn't even do that. They're giving soldiers too much power!

Thankfully he got out of active duty but he's Reserves - he only did four years active AND he made his sergeant before he got out. How did he do that? Oh he waited for the points for our MOS to drop down to the lowest they could be. He also went to the promotion board when I was on leave and 1SG was the one who sent him. No one asked me about his performance or for his counseling packet. He was on his way to be a great soldier until he went to Europe on R & R and then he just wanted to be a civilian again and be "free" and lost his damn mind.

[candycane3482]

Well that person that you do not like; might just save your ass someday.

And 6 years ago when I was at Fort Campbell, I came across alot of un-sat individuals but at the same token; soldiers that usually serve at a division are more tightly wrapped then soldiers at different bases.

I am a product of both Army and Marine Corps basic and boot camps from the 80s and soldiers in this decade (especially the ones who came in after the war on terror) are a total different breed. A give me generation that wants but doesnt want to earn it.

I started out at E-1 and just do not like how the Army handles their promotions but its a very big organization, so I understand its purpose.

If you are a squared-away NCO, you do not gripe about stuff (e.g. PT) and how the Army is not what you expected. If you do not like how it is; then there is always a civilian job waiting. Stop going past your first hitch because its the economy. You are not a true asset unless you embody what the military is about.

I do miss my years as an NCO but by crossing-over I cannot longer engage but still observe with bewilderment and sadness are what has transpired over the years.

No he wouldn't. In fact, I think he would push me in front of a bullet or something. I kid he probably wouldn't have gone that far and considering he still randomly will text me, I must have done something right. It's not that I don't like him - I didn't like the way he was acting and I was doing my job as a NCO but yet I was getting punished for doing my job by MY leadership. Even our NCOIC would talk to me but that was only because he just did what our OIC did to get a good NCOER. He was only with us for like six months and went home early to take over as 1SG for a new company.

I love the Army - just not some of the people in it. I also don't like people who sit around and WAIT for points to drop instead of working to get the points needed. My points for SSG had gone up from 450 to 798 so I worked to get as many points as I did. I got around 700s and then the points began to fall to low 700s, high 600s. But I didn't wait for that, I did the best I could to try to max as much as I could. (Thank goodness for my bachelor's degree). Now they're changing the whole promotion system anyway so we'll see.

But it's true, this generation (even adults too) are all "me, me, me" and what does the world owe me. I think the Army or at least leadership in the Army needs to give power back to the NCOs so we can do our job and train soldiers.

[E4RUMOR]

No he wouldn't. In fact, I think he would push me in front of a bullet or something. I kid he probably wouldn't have gone that far and considering he still randomly will text me, I must have done something right. It's not that I don't like him - I didn't like the way he was acting and I was doing my job as a NCO but yet I was getting punished for doing my job by MY leadership. Even our NCOIC would talk to me but that was only because he just did what our OIC did to get a good NCOER. He was only with us for like six months and went home early to take over as 1SG for a new company.

I love the Army - just not some of the people in it. I also don't like people who sit around and WAIT for points to drop instead of working to get the points needed. My points for SSG had gone up from 450 to 798 so I worked to get as many points as I did. I got around 700s and then the points began to fall to low 700s, high 600s. But I didn't wait for that, I did the best I could to try to max as much as I could. (Thank goodness for my bachelor's degree). Now they're changing the whole promotion system anyway so we'll see.

But it's true, this generation (even adults too) are all "me, me, me" and what does the world owe me. I think the Army or at least leadership in the Army needs to give power back to the NCOs so we can do our job and train soldiers.

Good post. Oustanding actually, and I couldn't agree with you more. Nice to see an NCO who gives a damn.

[INGUARD]

No he wouldn't. In fact, I think he would push me in front of a bullet or something. I kid he probably wouldn't have gone that far and considering he still randomly will text me, I must have done something right. It's not that I don't like him - I didn't like the way he was acting and I was doing my job as a NCO but yet I was getting punished for doing my job by MY leadership. Even our NCOIC would talk to me but that was only because he just did what our OIC did to get a good NCOER. He was only with us for like six months and went home early to take over as 1SG for a new company.

I love the Army - just not some of the people in it. I also don't like people who sit around and WAIT for points to drop instead of working to get the points needed. My points for SSG had gone up from 450 to 798 so I worked to get as many points as I did. I got around 700s and then the points began to fall to low 700s, high 600s. But I didn't wait for that, I did the best I could to try to max as much as I could. (Thank goodness for my bachelor's degree). Now they're changing the whole promotion system anyway so we'll see.

But it's true, this generation (even adults too) are all "me, me, me" and what does the world owe me. I think the Army or at least leadership in the Army needs to give power back to the NCOs so we can do our job and train soldiers.

You said you like the Army - not the PEOPLE in it. So my comment was that one of those PERSONS aka soldiers, might save your ass some day.

I was not referring to your superiors that are making passes at you.

Also, since I was combat arms in the Army, all my training (even with both services) has never been integrated (except at leadership schools such as NCO (e.g PLDC and BNCOC). The Marine Corps doesnt have integrated training and I never believed that men and women should be in basic together but that is just another opinion that I have about the military that will continue to happen regardless. The Marines do not have issues of men and women having sex during boot camp. The DIs are gender specific as well so only men train men and women train women. So again, you wouldnt have the scandals of male drill sergeants having sex with female recruits. I think these situations take away from what recruit training should be.

Anyway...

With myself, I just try to harp on the Army seven values so when it comes to situation when things do not turn out the way that I expected it or personal goals that do not come to fruition, I focus on that SELFLESS SERVICE value and it puts things right back into perspective for me. Plus with a family and outside family members that depend on me; its never been about me, me, me. Even as a teenager.

[candycane3482]

You said you like the Army - not the PEOPLE in it. So my comment was that one of those PERSONS aka soldiers, might save your ass some day.

I was not referring to your superiors that are making passes at you.

Also, since I was combat arms in the Army, all my training (even with both services) has never been integrated (except at leadership schools such as NCO (e.g PLDC and BNCOC). The Marine Corps doesnt have integrated training and I never believed that men and women should be in basic together but that is just another opinion that I have about the military that will continue to happen regardless. The Marines do not have issues of men and women having sex during boot camp. The DIs are gender specific as well so only men train men and women train women. So again, you wouldnt have the scandals of male drill sergeants having sex with female recruits. I think these situations take away from what recruit training should be.

Anyway...

With myself, I just try to harp on the Army seven values so when it comes to situation when things do not turn out the way that I expected it or personal goals that do not come to fruition, I focus on that SELFLESS SERVICE value and it puts things right back into perspective for me. Plus with a family and outside family members that depend on me; its never been about me, me, me. Even as a teenager.

Where did I say anything in the comment you replied to about "superiors making passes" at me? I've never had a superior make a pass at me.

And my response was that specific soldier of mine would not save my ass period. I know that kid and he was never a team player. He was always worried about how he looked, what awards he could get, why didn't I give him a positive counseling ever...he was me, me, me all the time. So I can say with utmost certainty that if we were in a firefight, he would save his ass before anyone else's, including mine. He was just selfish period.

I never had the inclination to have sex with anyone in basic. That is disgusting. Some people though can't be mature - that happens in any job though.

[Rizzo77]

Superiors making passes? GROSS. I hope only heteros do that.

[USAF]

Did anybody notice that in the video at 1:38 the recruit's cover is ranger rolled. WTF?

[stingerwooten]

I think we should all 'agree to disagree.' Everyone's experience in Basic Training is going to vary from individual to individual. Just like everyone's experience will vary from branch of service, to the era in which one attends. My basic training experience in post-Desert Storm era in 1991, is obviously going to be different then my dad's experience during the Vietnam War in 1969. What matters is what an individual makes of it. Sure, during peacetime the training may not be as intense or that someone who is combat support may not have as an intense experience as say, someone who attends basic as an infantryman. Every generation will argue that they had worse off and that their experience was 'hardcore' compare to those that followed. It's an old argument.

~Basic training...experiences may vary.

[CON50582]

I'm glad I didn't go through the last hard class I may not have made it through Basic, or ABN, or JumpMaster, or Pathfinder, or Combat. Every generation has paid it's dues Rev War till today. I guess we won, we are still here.

[candycane3482]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDarXwWCoNg&feature=related

WTF is THIS? Is this just Ft. Leonard Wood, or is it all like this? That Drill Sergeant had to ask that female private nicely to go to that stall! WTF??

You do realize that seemed to be a recruiting type video so they had to be "nice." And that DS didn't "nicely" ask her to go to that stall. He seemed to be pretty sarcastic to me. He said she was his "special soldier." When I went to Lost in the Woods it was not like that.

[Shrike]

You do realize that seemed to be a recruiting type video so they had to be "nice." And that DS didn't "nicely" ask her to go to that stall. He seemed to be pretty sarcastic to me. He said she was his "special soldier." When I went to Lost in the Woods it was not like that.

You do realize you're responding to an 18-month old post, right?

[candycane3482]

You do realize you're responding to an 18-month old post, right?

That one yes I do now but I saw it as a new post on the thread before you go into it and I didn't see the actual video the first time. Why do you care?

[Shrike]

That one yes I do now but I saw it as a new post on the thread before you go into it and I didn't see the actual video the first time. Why do you care?
Just pointing it out to you, that's all.

[SWOUSA]

Candy, just remind the brain farted airman that the airmen threads are that way ----->>>>>>> :)

things must be slow there today hence his concern.

[candycane3482]

Candy, just remind the brain farted airman that the airmen threads are that way ----->>>>>>> :)

things must be slow there today hence his concern.

Well I post in other service threads once in awhile so I wouldn't say that though. Oh well.

[Shrike]

Candy, just remind the brain farted airman that the airmen threads are that way ----->>>>>>> :)

things must be slow there today hence his concern.

Great, another idiot stalker. And one who's just as much of a dumba$$ as the others.



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[SWOUSA]

Mister Tool, I thought you had thick skin? You should be able to do better than that :)