Bad treatment from supervisor, help?

[JStatus330]

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[SailorDave]

Get those first, before you report him to IG, or you may see them clam up when the real shit hits the fan.

[ChiefB]

Doesn't a prior AF SF, now in HR with the 10th Mtn at Ft. Polk have a chain of command? Have you used it?

Does your supervisor not have a supervisor?

Is this the same supervisor that wanted to put you in for "Soldier of the Month" and you refused.

How about fleshing out your side of this conflict and what you have done to resolve it, then maybe we can give you some informed advice.

ChiefB

[INGUARD]

Doesn't a prior AF SF, now in HR with the 10th Mtn at Ft. Polk have a chain of command? Have you used it?

Does your supervisor not have a supervisor?

Is this the same supervisor that wanted to put you in for "Soldier of the Month" and you refused.

How about fleshing out your side of this conflict and what you have done to resolve it, then maybe we can give you some informed advice.

ChiefB

There is always more to the story, right Chief? Good stuff.

Soldier, you didnt make things clear. Does this "supervisor" monthly counsel you? If that is the case, why during those venues did you not address this or write it down on paper on your DA Form 4856.

And like the Chief said, why didnt you utilize the chain of command?

Years ago, I had a platoon sergeant that used F-bombs on me in front of the whole platoon. I addressed it to him privately and it was done with.

You dont go to the IG for situations like that. This is an EO issue. IG is for issues dealing with regulations. EO is equal opportunity (similar to harassment, discrimination).

You can have an informal with your Company's EO representative.

[JStatus330]

Doesn't a prior AF SF, now in HR with the 10th Mtn at Ft. Polk have a chain of command? Have you used it?

Does your supervisor not have a supervisor?

Is this the same supervisor that wanted to put you in for "Soldier of the Month" and you refused.

How about fleshing out your side of this conflict and what you have done to resolve it, then maybe we can give you some informed advice.

ChiefB

I didn't "refuse" to go, he just brought it up, but nothing was ever set in stone. Of course I have a CAC, but we all know that doesn't always solve things. I don't think his supervisor will say much either. I could see EO I guess but some are saying that won't solve it. I just don't know what to do. My wife is upset now too cause she was worried if someone told her that I did that to myself when it wasn't true. My shop basically wants me to report him and stop taking his crap, which I think is the right thing to do, but I'm just stuck. Oh and yes, I do get counseled monthly. It's basically a, here is what I have to say, and if I say anything back he has a rebuttal. He is one of those people that think they are always right, everyone else is wrong, plain and simple.

[Your_Name_Here]

I didn't "refuse" to go, he just brought it up, but nothing was ever set in stone. Of course I have a CAC, but we all know that doesn't always solve things. I don't think his supervisor will say much either. I could see EO I guess but some are saying that won't solve it. I just don't know what to do. My wife is upset now too cause she was worried if someone told her that I did that to myself when it wasn't true. My shop basically wants me to report him and stop taking his crap, which I think is the right thing to do, but I'm just stuck. Oh and yes, I do get counseled monthly. It's basically a, here is what I have to say, and if I say anything back he has a rebuttal. He is one of those people that think they are always right, everyone else is wrong, plain and simple.

Instead of guessing just how ineffective you THINK your chain, EO or any other venue is, why not actually, you know, TALK to them? I think your supervisor is counting on you not going to any of them.

And no, there's NEVER any call to address anyone, let alone subordinates, names like "fa***t" or any of those others. What "rebuttal" could he possibly have if you call him out for namecalling?

[INGUARD]

Instead of guessing just how ineffective you THINK your chain, EO or any other venue is, why not actually, you know, TALK to them? I think your supervisor is counting on you not going to any of them.

And no, there's NEVER any call to address anyone, let alone subordinates, names like "fa***t" or any of those others. What "rebuttal" could he possibly have if you call him out for namecalling?

You took the words right out of my keyboard brother!!

Exactly. Give your chain of command the decency to address the issue first.

You know what IG or EO would say?

"DID YOU HANDLE THE MATTER WITH YOUR CHAIN OF COMMAND FIRST"

you will say no and case closed lol

[INGUARD]

I didn't "refuse" to go, he just brought it up, but nothing was ever set in stone. Of course I have a CAC, but we all know that doesn't always solve things. I don't think his supervisor will say much either. I could see EO I guess but some are saying that won't solve it. I just don't know what to do. My wife is upset now too cause she was worried if someone told her that I did that to myself when it wasn't true. My shop basically wants me to report him and stop taking his crap, which I think is the right thing to do, but I'm just stuck. Oh and yes, I do get counseled monthly. It's basically a, here is what I have to say, and if I say anything back he has a rebuttal. He is one of those people that think they are always right, everyone else is wrong, plain and simple.

Status,

I been in the Army for a total of 16 years (20 with my Marine Corps years) and you are making numerous mistakes and assumptions.

First, you dont do or listen to your friends say. Regardless if they will back you up or not; you follow normal procedure. Yea, they want you to be the scapegoat. If they are affected as well, then they should do something too. Not wait on you. But if its only you experiencing the Sergeant's (is he E5 or higher?) wrath; assess yourself as well.

Second, you not using your counselings to its fullest potential. To say that a rebuttal is an excuse for not writing down your concerns; is a poor excuse. That documentation alone will help you when EO wants to see that documentation. Also, if a first sergeant wants to look at the counselings.

Third, your wife is not in the Army. You will have to handle the matter yourself. Her being upset is irrelevant. And of course, you telling her just your side of the story.

Also, why would sworn statements come into the matter? Only if he was being charged under the UCMJ or an AR 15-6 investigation.

Stop bitching to your fellow troopers and wife; man up and deal with the situation like a man. Be mature about this. Its not a forum issue but face to face.

You want real help; then PM me if you like.