Joining Army as a teenage father...

[wolfeydawg]

I've been looking to join the military after I graduate high school and thought I'd start the research now. I'm only 15 bout to be 16 in a months time. I have a baby girl bout a week old. I'm planning on marrying the mother. and please no bagging that im stupid and crap like that. If I can what should I do? I love to work on engines but the Air Force says that I wouldn't be allowed. Not that this is second choice but I'm just looking at which branch I'd want or be able to join.:ph34r:

[MCGYVER]

The Air Force (and all other recruiters) won't even waste time on you right now. They know that a. you may never be eligible to join. b. you will change your mind a hundred times between now and the time you graduate H.S. if you graduate (see a. above) c. you are not worth investing a bunch of time and manpower into yet because you're nowhere near eligible d. if they can make you think that you need them more than they need you then they will have the upper hand in the relationship

[wolfeydawg]

allright... i guess well i'll wait a couple of years then...Nunca se entiende cómo esas palabras me afectó ni a mi novia. Ahora vamos a tener miedo cuando me levanto como Lazarath. Porque yo estoy sentado en la noche, mirando a la luz, mi vida es llevado por el miedo, ahora esta es una batalla que sólo puede luchar.

[MCGYVER]

Relájese, tenga paciencia. Sé fuerte. De hacer lo correcto todos los días a partir de ahora para establecer usted mismo (y su familia) para el éxito en el futuro. Usted DEBE hacer lo correcto. ¡Debes hacerlo!

[wolfeydawg]

Voy a tomar tu consejo y no te preocupes que nunca cederá, causa que debe trabajar para mantener a mi familia.

[wolfeydawg]

For anyone whose wondering the spanish part is kinda off topic... lol

[INGUARD]

allright... i guess well i'll wait a couple of years then...Nunca se entiende cómo esas palabras me afectó ni a mi novia. Ahora vamos a tener miedo cuando me levanto como Lazarath. Porque yo estoy sentado en la noche, mirando a la luz, mi vida es llevado por el miedo, ahora esta es una batalla que sólo puede luchar.

Usted tiene que espera hasta tienes diez y siete anos y solamente con el permiso de sus padres.

[wolfeydawg]

which is why im waiting till im 17 to actually join but i just wanted to find out which branch i'd want to join before then...

[INGUARD]

I joined at 17. but I recommended to focus on your education as well. The only way you help others is to help yourself first.

[wolfeydawg]

I am trying my hardest to focus on education but truthfully the thing I'm best at is working on engines and I'm not bad at math. but everything else I struggle with. My friends dad is stationed at Fort Bragg, his names Pererya (i'm not sure his rank). And he kinda got us started with military service young. but yea I want to work on engines and I guess I can try tech school instead...

[INGUARD]

Keep working on it. I was never good in school and I am went to college (not the online stuff but attended a state university and lived in the dorms) and received my associates and bachelors degrees.

now doing the online thing for my Masters lol. but not mocking people who take online courses. I am just a fan on face to face learning.

But the point is you can study mechanical engineering and increase your chances for a better future for you and your kid.

[wolfeydawg]

I will keep working on it. I'm not sure bout the college, Ima have to wait for that. My girlfriends education is more important to me. I guess I'll go to tech school my Junior and Senior years in high school and save up and pay for her school and then she'll be able to pay for mine...

[JD2780]

My father-in-law was a HS drop out. Got his GED enlisted in the AF retired as an E-8 with a masters degree. It can be done. Now the AF isnt taking people GEDs i know, but other branches might be and the opportunities are there to be had. You most likely wont be able to enlist as a single dad. Meaning not married. Just saying. Good luck with everything.

[wolfeydawg]

My father-in-law was a HS drop out. Got his GED enlisted in the AF retired as an E-8 with a masters degree. It can be done. Now the AF isnt taking people GEDs i know, but other branches might be and the opportunities are there to be had. You most likely wont be able to enlist as a single dad. Meaning not married. Just saying. Good luck with everything.

Thank You, maybe I will have good luck. I can't get a GED the courts say I have to finish High School. I'm thinking of taking Tech School during high school, the school will pay majority I just have to pay maybe 2 grand for tools and stuff...

[INGUARD]

A single father can enlist and claim his child as a dependent with the proper documentation. Its usually a single mother because most of the time, the child lives with her and she will have to give custody of her kid before she can enlist and go to basic.

Not an easy thing to do.

In the Army you need to have 15 college credits if you dont have a HS diploma to enlist. They do have a GED program.

[wolfeydawg]

A single father can enlist and claim his child as a dependent with the proper documentation. Its usually a single mother because most of the time, the child lives with her and she will have to give custody of her kid before she can enlist and go to basic.

Not an easy thing to do.

In the Army you need to have 15 college credits if you dont have a HS diploma to enlist. They do have a GED program.

I wouldn't want to give up custody of our kid and I'm a dude... that seems to hard to want to do...

[JD2780]

INGAURD thanks for the clarification. I just remember the recruiter yrs ago having some concern if I did have one. I'll stop with the spewing of bad info.

[wolfeydawg]

INGAURD thanks for the clarification. I just remember the recruiter yrs ago having some concern if I did have one. I'll stop with the spewing of bad info.

I don't think it really matters that time since we are planning on getting married after high school before I join up anyway... lol:D :thumbup:

[ArmyWriter]

The real question is, "How bad do you want it?" The odds are against you with the situation you are in, but you can overcome the odds, it just depends on what you want for you and your family. Develop a plan, stick to it no matter what, and accomplish your goals.

ArmyWriter

[chucksnee]

I asume that you want to work on Turbine engines for Army helicopters...Understand these are completely different than a V-8...Not being sarcastic just want to make sure you understand.......

You will need to make at least a 100 on your ASVAB test...and then it goes up form there...(anything to do with Aviation is 100+ on the ASVAB) so there is a strting point...

If you really want to work on/in Aviation (army or Civillian)...then you need to look into getting an Airframe and PowerPlant (A&P) licence.. you will have to take the complete course, Embry Riddle has a course that is 18 months long and when you are complete you will still have to take the Oral exams with your examiner....not the same person who gives the class...He/she is called a DME.

Your A&P will put you on the right track for success and you may even beable to complete this now at night....maybe.....just google Airframe and powerplant....

Good luck, with a week old child and you are only 15 you will need it....but you will have to apply yourself...
not when you feel like it....it will have to be all the time all day everyday....

[wolfeydawg]

I asume that you want to work on Turbine engines for Army helicopters...Understand these are completely different than a V-8...Not being sarcastic just want to make sure you understand.......

You will need to make at least a 100 on your ASVAB test...and then it goes up form there...(anything to do with Aviation is 100+ on the ASVAB) so there is a strting point...

If you really want to work on/in Aviation (army or Civillian)...then you need to look into getting an Airframe and PowerPlant (A&P) licence.. you will have to take the complete course, Embry Riddle has a course that is 18 months long and when you are complete you will still have to take the Oral exams with your examiner....not the same person who gives the class...He/she is called a DME.

Your A&P will put you on the right track for success and you may even beable to complete this now at night....maybe.....just google Airframe and powerplant....

Good luck, with a week old child and you are only 15 you will need it....but you will have to apply yourself...
not when you feel like it....it will have to be all the time all day everyday....

Yea I actually looked at Embry RIddle and it seemed really cool but I don't know if I could afford it right now or even after high school. I will google it after this. I think I might just start working on cars until I save up enough for my girlfriends law school and then she'll help pay for my education. I wish that life wasn't so hard with a baby but I guess thats half the fun, on off topic the other half is making it... JOKE A FRIEND MADE EARLIER. thank you and GOOD LUCK with whatever you're doing right now...

[INGUARD]

it was sure alot of fun and very easy to have sex lol

now you will have to work double

[wolfeydawg]

it was sure alot of fun and very easy to have sex lol

now you will have to work double

lol that was my dad's sex talk...

Son, I'm not gonna lie, sex is fun, god its fun. wear a condom.

lol

[chucksnee]

Yea I actually looked at Embry RIddle and it seemed really cool but I don't know if I could afford it right now or even after high school. I will google it after this. I think I might just start working on cars until I save up enough for my girlfriends law school and then she'll help pay for my education. I wish that life wasn't so hard with a baby but I guess thats half the fun, on off topic the other half is making it... JOKE A FRIEND MADE EARLIER. thank you and GOOD LUCK with whatever you're doing right now...

The bold part has me confused?

Go with me here....

Your soon to be wife, is going/gonna go to law school....she passes and becomes a lawyer....she now has over $50,000 in debt (more I'm sure if she goes to any school worth going to...to become a lawyer) and as soon as she becomes a lawyer...she will start paying for your school?

What about her bills....

And you want to go to school with in the next 5 years right?

Put the crack pipe down buddy....as a 15 year old, you need to re-think your goals in life...

Not a slam....its reality....

[wolfeydawg]

The bold part has me confused?

Go with me here....

Your soon to be wife, is going/gonna go to law school....she passes and becomes a lawyer....she now has over $50,000 in debt (more I'm sure if she goes to any school worth going to...to become a lawyer) and as soon as she becomes a lawyer...she will start paying for your school?

What about her bills....

And you want to go to school with in the next 5 years right?

Put the crack pipe down buddy....as a 15 year old, you need to re-think your goals in life...

Not a slam....its reality....

I'm not going to be the only person to help. My dad's whose in law school right now. is going to and he'll finish a year before i finish high school. after high school its going to take a while to go to an aviation mechanic school. I know what my life is going to be like. I'm ready for it. Yea 5 years is to short try at least 10-15 cause we're sophomores in high school...

[acesfilter]

For anyone whose wondering the spanish part is kinda off topic... lol

Not to mention pointless.

And I still don't understand why McGyver thinks you will never be eligible for the Air Force. Further elaboration on that one would be nice at this juncture.

[wolfeydawg]

Not to mention pointless.

And I still don't understand why McGyver thinks you will never be eligible for the Air Force. Further elaboration on that one would be nice at this juncture.

i think something bout how I am a teenage father and that apparently I'm going to mess up and how no military branch should even want to use me? I'm not sure but thats what I got... lol...

[ArmyWriter]

I can't speak for Mcgyver, but I think you should read this thread to see what obstacles you face with the current military enlistment situation.

http://www.militarytimes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1582897

You have made some decisions in your young life and now you have to deal with the consequences of those decisions. It will not be an easy road, but you can obtain your goals and dreams if you so choose. If you don’t so choose, what will be your excuse? How bad do you want it?

ArmyWriter

[acesfilter]

i think something bout how I am a teenage father and that apparently I'm going to mess up and how no military branch should even want to use me? I'm not sure but thats what I got... lol...

It shouldn't matter so much...if you decide to join the Army or something. Not sure how the Air Force feels about a person entering with dependents.

[wolfeydawg]

It shouldn't matter so much...if you decide to join the Army or something. Not sure how the Air Force feels about a person entering with dependents.

ok thank you. i was actually feeling a lil bad...

[RUSTMIKE]

Your best bet is to wait until you are the proper age (17 with parents permission or 18 on your own) and talk to the recruiters about your eligibility. Each service has its own eligibility requirements as far as moral (police and court record) and qualification based on dependents. If you are good to go there you will take the ASVAB. Your scores (there are more than one) on the ASVAB and your physical that you will need to take at MEPS will determine your job eligiblity. Yes the physical does have something to do with it as red/green color blind and general eye sight and other things do affect whether you are qualified for service and the jobs (MOSs) that you qualify for. After that you can look at jobs that have training available. If you find one that you like enlist. Keep in mind that the college benefits you earn by serving can be used to pay for any degree offered by an accredited university and do not have to coincide with what you did for the service. The service can be a great way to get a jumpstart on achieving your life's goals and does not have to be a 20+ year career. Best of luck in the future and maybe I'll see you in uniform one day.

[wolfeydawg]

Your best bet is to wait until you are the proper age (17 with parents permission or 18 on your own) and talk to the recruiters about your eligibility. Each service has its own eligibility requirements as far as moral (police and court record) and qualification based on dependents. If you are good to go there you will take the ASVAB. Your scores (there are more than one) on the ASVAB and your physical that you will need to take at MEPS will determine your job eligiblity. Yes the physical does have something to do with it as red/green color blind and general eye sight and other things do affect whether you are qualified for service and the jobs (MOSs) that you qualify for. After that you can look at jobs that have training available. If you find one that you like enlist. Keep in mind that the college benefits you earn by serving can be used to pay for any degree offered by an accredited university and do not have to coincide with what you did for the service. The service can be a great way to get a jumpstart on achieving your life's goals and does not have to be a 20+ year career. Best of luck in the future and maybe I'll see you in uniform one day.

Maybe we will see each other someday. Thanks for the luck I can use tons of it right now. Having a kid is stressful but fun lol...

[CORNELIUSSEON]

I've been looking to join the military after I graduate high school and thought I'd start the research now. I'm only 15 bout to be 16 in a months time. I have a baby girl bout a week old. I'm planning on marrying the mother. and please no bagging that im stupid and crap like that. If I can what should I do? I love to work on engines but the Air Force says that I wouldn't be allowed. Not that this is second choice but I'm just looking at which branch I'd want or be able to join.:ph34r:

When I joined the Regular Army, I had to be 18 just to get in the door. Further, if I had been married, the marriage would have suffered by my continuous absence for at least the first year. Yes, I would have qualified for a Housing Allowance and a Rations Allowance for a Wife, but I would NOT have been permitted to live off the base with a wife below the rank of Specialist, and on-base Married Quarters would not have been available below the rank of Sergeant. I Deployed to Vietnam 15 Days after I finished AIT, and was gone a full year. By the time I returned, I had made Specialist, and so could have had Off Post Housing. The point is that from July, 1967 to January, 1969, I would not have been home long enough to cement the relationship, and the Child would have suffered. The Best bet would have been for the wife and child to live with her Parents. My point is that initial entry to the US Military is hard for a married person because it is designed for a single person. It is possible for such initial entry to work if you have been married for a considerable amount of time, and have sufficient financial and social support to make it over the initial period, but it won’t be easy.

[MSMUROTC]

Just to clarify, nowadays you can live in familiy housing regardless of rank. But the thing about seeing your family definately holds true. Even if we're out of Iraq and Afghanistan, there will still be trips to NTC/JRTC, etc.