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Old 11-03-2009, 04:32 PM
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What exactly do you mean by that?
Like my actual job. A national guardsman runs a real risk of losing their stateside job. We have more roots dug in because we dont move around. Family is more used to us being home. Its tough moving from civilian life to full time military life just like that. Normally the FRGs arent anywhere near as polished either.
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1)Wear your retiree pin everywhere you go, in a conspicuous place on your clothing. If people still don't get it, you can fiddle with it in their presence, even making ostentatious throat-clearing noises until they recognize that you are a retiree also.
2)Explore your feelings to determine why exactly you need the recognition and approval of strangers.
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:12 PM
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As I recall, your job is protected by federal law unless you volunteer to deploy. There are good and bad sides to both ARC and AD.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:34 PM
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I'm confused. Men and women are returning from deployments and are being greeted and thanked by strangers rather than being spat on and we're COMPLAINING? Did I miss something? My guy came through Bangor, is AD and as far as I know there were folks greeting them.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:46 AM
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I'm confused. Men and women are returning from deployments and are being greeted and thanked by strangers rather than being spat on and we're COMPLAINING? Did I miss something? My guy came through Bangor, is AD and as far as I know there were folks greeting them.
The OP does that to us on a regular basis.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:23 AM
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Bummer. It seems like are much bigger things to be worried about than this.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:09 AM
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As I recall, your job is protected by federal law unless you volunteer to deploy. There are good and bad sides to both ARC and AD.
First off Okie, you are right about the good and bad sides...that is very true. One could correctly argue the side against mine just as well as I presented my case.

As far as USERRA, you are technically correct, but the act is far from ironclad. There are so many loopholes that an employer can use to get past it. Especially in states like VA that are right-to-work states. Most employers shy away from trying to weasle past USERRA because of patriotism or fear of any bad press that a returning reservist/guardsmen could rally.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:15 AM
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First off Okie, you are right about the good and bad sides...that is very true. One could correctly argue the side against mine just as well as I presented my case.

As far as USERRA, you are technically correct, but the act is far from ironclad. There are so many loopholes that an employer can use to get past it. Especially in states like VA that are right-to-work states. Most employers shy away from trying to weasle past USERRA because of patriotism or fear of any bad press that a returning reservist/guardsmen could rally.
Actually Okie was not technically correect. USERRA protects your civilian job regardless of whether you volunteer or not. You are correct though that there are a lot of ways around it-esp in right to work states. In other situations, the employer may make up reasons to "et someone go." They rarely say it is because of their military service-even if it is.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:23 AM
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Thanksfor the correction, ringjamesa. I was getting my info from Guard guys I've been deployed with. I haven't bothered to research it because it doesn't affect me.

caliny--I must say I've never redeployed through a civilian airfield. I've always flown back to my home base.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:12 PM
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caliny--I must say I've never redeployed through a civilian airfield. I've always flown back to my home base.
That works for the AirGuard and any air asset Army types. The rest have to be shuttled.
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:08 PM
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Thanksfor the correction, ringjamesa. I was getting my info from Guard guys I've been deployed with. I haven't bothered to research it because it doesn't affect me.

caliny--I must say I've never redeployed through a civilian airfield. I've always flown back to my home base.
np. The progra has a lot of idiosyncacies that most people don't know about-like the max cummulative total of years they have to hold the job and the like. For the most part, the law relies on employers doing the right thing which unfortunately doesn't always happen.
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