F-22?

[Steel412]

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Raptor was indeed getting sand up it's ass and the Air Force was keeping it hush-hush.

[Boss Hog]

Originally Posted by Laxman

The B-52 only deploys to Guam as well....is that thing worthless as well?

Dumbest post yet....

Duh, Lax--

There are a whole bunch of Buff-types that have been releasing prodigious loads of ordnance on bad dudes in the AOR for an extended time who will probably nominate your above post as the "dumbest yet."

One more time: how many useful F-22 combat sorties? (Try to stay on topic. I know it's probably going to be difficult for you; but try.)

Have a nice AeroCyberSpace day, doofus.

[blacksheep1208]

Originally Posted by Boss Hog

Duh, Lax--

There are a whole bunch of Buff-types that have been releasing prodigious loads of ordnance on bad dudes in the AOR for an extended time who will probably nominate your above post as the "dumbest yet."

One more time: how many useful F-22 combat sorties? (Try to stay on topic. I know it's probably going to be difficult for you; but try.)

Have a nice AeroCyberSpace day, doofus.

How many combat sorties did the B-36 do?

[Boss Hog]

Duh, Blackie--

Please read the excerpt below.

[quote=Boss Hog;303965]

One more time: how many useful F-22 combat sorties? (Try to stay on topic. I know it's probably going to be difficult for you; but try.)

[Silver Fox]

Originally Posted by blacksheep1208

How many combat sorties did the B-36 do?

I can't believe you brought up the B-36.

1) The plane was a monstrosity.
2) It was a deterrent, IT WASN'T ITENDED TO FLY SORTIES unless shit hit the fan. It is NOT a tactical fighter. :Rolleyes:

[Silver Fox]

Originally Posted by warr1or

I actually have heard from a very reliable source that on a supply run to A-Stan at a remote airfield there was a squadron of F-22's on the ground, and lot's of people in civilian clothes. Aircrew had to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

Sorry, I call bullshit.

There's enough aircraft fanatics that this would NEVER make it as a secret.

Someone at their homebase would notice they were gone, and people outside the aircrew in theater would see it. You can't move a squadron of F-22's without someone noticing, this ain't hollywood.

I hear these "reliable source" stories all the time and they're always bullshit.

The military didn't keep secret the Osprey's deployment, they wouldn't keep the F-22's secret either. Especially as I said, the Air Force is fishing for money. If they went into theater, it'd be advertised EVERYWHERE what such an allegedly BAD ASS job they're doing.

[blacksheep1208]

Originally Posted by Silver Fox

I can't believe you brought up the B-36.

1) The plane was a monstrosity.
2) It was a deterrent, IT WASN'T ITENDED TO FLY SORTIES unless shit hit the fan. It is NOT a tactical fighter. :Rolleyes:

So you don't think a fighter that would absolutely dominate the battlespace in the air is a deterrent?

[Boss Hog]

So you don't think a fighter that would absolutely dominate the battlespace in the air is a deterrent?

Duh, Blackie--

In a word: "No."

I challenge you to provide a single example of where this has happened in contemporary military history. Sorry, dude, but "fighter dominance" has rarely if ever (repeat, almost never) influenced major (repeat, major) conflicts.

[blacksheep1208]

Originally Posted by Boss Hog

Duh, Blackie--

In a word: "No."

I challenge you to provide a single example of where this has happened in contemporary military history. Sorry, dude, but "fighter dominance" has rarely if ever (repeat, almost never) influenced major (repeat, major) conflicts.

Operation Iraqi Freedom. Saddam Hussein wouldn't allow the Iraqi Air Force to takeoff because he knew they had no chance of fighting against the US Air Force. It may not have stopped the conflict from happening. But I think that the capabilites held at the time did influence the invasion. How many coalition forces died due to enemy aircraft attacking them? It did deter the enemy air force from fighting, giving us complete control.

And what's the best plan? Not build any and then have someone over take us in the department of being dominant in the air? Can you win a war with air power alone, no. But can it be a big factor in a major engagement, yes. If the master plan is to put all the money into MRAPs, that's a joke. Just because the current war is fought like this, doesn't mean the rest will be. We need to be ready to go anywhere at any time. And if it's a money issue, I don't buy it. Maybe I'll buy it when the government isn't looking to piss money away on all sorts of programs. Until there is rationing and a draft I don't want to hear about all the resources being tapped.