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CommunityEditor
05-07-2008, 08:08 PM
The Defense Department said it cannot meet a Jan. 1 deadline to craft a defensewide policy for allowing entry to installations and is asking for more time.

Congress has ordered standard access rules, including policies for who is allowed to enter and how visitors are screened, to be in place by the start of the 2009 calendar year, but Pentagon officials, citing a variety of hurdles, said they don’t expect to be ready until Oct. 1, 2012.

One problem: Some identity verification procedures require coordination with other federal agencies, such as special programs to identify truckers, electronic passport screening for foreign visitors, and Terrorist Watch List improvements, defense officials said in an April 25 notice to the House and Senate armed services committees.

A second problem is the need for procedures to screen civilians who have no military affiliation and are just passing through military land. In some cases, people need access to travel on highways through bases. In other cases, local emergency vehicles need to pass through parts of bases to serve civilian populations.

Some installations are home to national cemeteries visited by the public, and the military also needs to find a way to screen public transportation, such as transit buses or taxis, to allow public school buses to pass through.

Defense officials said they expect the common policy for base entry will require the hiring and training of new people using new equipment, which takes time and money.

All of that means meeting the Jan. 1 deadline “is not physically feasible,” defense officials said.

The demand for common access standards was included in the 2008 Defense Authorization Act, which became law in January. Lawmakers want a defensewide policy for determining who can visit a base, what kind of authorization is needed and what level of access will be granted.

The call for a common policy comes after complaints from businesses, military retirees and civilians who live near military bases about disparities between bases that make it easy to visit some installations and extremely difficult to enter others.

Under the new law, military personnel and civilian workers and families living on military bases are supposed to get expedited access, while other visitors are supposed to receive greater scrutiny to determine if they pose a security risk.

The law provides that some bases may have tighter security than others because they host “particularly sensitive facilities,” but basic screening requirements should be the same at all bases.


Article: http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/05/military_base_accessrules_050608w/

Boss Hog
05-08-2008, 07:09 PM
Gotta throw the BS flag on this DoD Force Protection policy FUBAR.

"They" announce "they" can't get their feces together on installation entry control standardization until CY 2012? Duh, we done been doin' this business since CY 1776!

Even us ol' dum' retired Air Force Security Police types could do better than this with pre-computer IBM Selectrics. (And please don't try to tell me I jus' don' unnerstan' the inner workings of the 5-sided funny house, or the need to do this complex coordination task right.) The DoD Force Protection leadership needs to have a hot poker replace their heads in that special place in their anatomies. Quitcha' bitchin' an' git to WORK.

YGBSM!

The Universal Curmudgeon_guest
05-09-2008, 01:10 AM
Gotta throw the BS flag on this DoD Force Protection policy FUBAR.

"They" announce "they" can't get their feces together on installation entry control standardization until CY 2012? Duh, we done been doin' this business since CY 1776! What ticks me off is the "Pointy Hats" saying that they can't even agree on what standard policies they WOULD LIKE TO implement.

I can see where the ACTUAL implementation of those standard policies at 100% of the installations might take longer than the time currently set for the DEVELOPMENT OF POLICIES, but I would be willing to bet that the policies already exist and the real "disagreement" is who is going to get the credit for "developing" the policy when the same policy already exists at different places.

How about this as a suggestion - everyone sends all of their policies to Fort Fumble, five O-7 (or better) officers get locked in a room with all of those policies and enough MREs to feed them for 30 days and a 30 day supply of Port-A-Potties. Those officers cannot come out of the room until they have sorted through all of the policies and picked the bits from each one that provide the highest level of security in each particular area. If there are any areas left untouched by the policies that were submitted, they also have to identify those areas but don't have to develop a policy to cover it.

Once the officers are allowed out of the room, the usual local process can take place to identify what has to be done to implement those policies.

Once each military location has identified what has to be done to implement those policies, the shopping list can be presented to the government of the United States of America.

Once the shopping list has been presented to the government, the policies can be implemented as fast as the funding to do so is provided.

Boss Hog
05-09-2008, 02:10 PM
Yeah. What Universal Curmudgeon said.

Could even be done faster if the MRE's were laced with Ex-Lax, and the Porta Potties were delivered half-full.

Har-har.

ChaplainC
05-21-2008, 01:21 AM
I have to say "It is about time!"

I went down to NAS Pensacola last year while I was at Maxwell AFB TDY. I thought, you know, hit the beach, and see the NAS at the same time. Fun trip right? WRONG. I got there and they let me on base, of course, but since I was in a rental car, and did not have the appropreate stickers ON THE STINKING CAR we could not even get to the BX (or whatever the heck Navy calls it.) I had my folks with me, and my wife. ALL of us had our military ID (dad is a USAFRET) and we still could not just go to the exchange. just stupid to me, I mean, come on, the Air Force stopped using those things years ago, so how am I supposed to get one even if I lived near by so I could get in there?

I would really like to see some form of standardization. I have heard of one base that has civilian guards at the gates, but they make them wear BDUs with white name tapes just so that they can salute the officers when they go on base! HONESTLY I would not want to be saluted by a civilian in the first place!

Oh well, what can you do.

They really do need to get the ideas in concrete and then say that they need a few years to get within 100% compliance, not this "no-can-do until the year 2189!"

Oh well Super nice to know that someone is at least trying. :D