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Poolie Connolly
08-29-2008, 04:43 AM
Hey Ya'll.

I am Poolie Connolly. 28 years young from Sonoma County, Ca.

Enlisted at MEPs San Jose 20080819. 5'9", 148lbs., BMI 21 (Normal), Body Fat %6 (Athlete), BP 118/76 (normal), Ears 5/5 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 5/5 (Good), Eyes 20/400 (Bad, Bad, Bad), ASVAB 90/99, DLAB 86 (Boooooooo), GT 110+, EL 110+.

No college except for community college classes in Astronomy and Physics (both passed with C+, insane stuff, a simple test of myself at early twenties to be sure my mind wasn't fried by a very colorful youth).

All my knowledge is self taught, computers, technology, electronics, crafting (I thank Legos, Dungeons and Dragons, Tandy 1000 EX, and Nintendo Entertainment System). My physical discipline learned via the web, nutrition sites, weight lifting sites, etc. No money for a gym membership, started with situps and pushups and moved to free weights and finally a bench with fancy attachments for leg work, curls, and pull downs.

Shipping to MCRD San Diego, 20080915

Now based on those stats, I got offered to take the DLAB which I sucked at apparently and scored 86. To be honest, those that have taken this test may know, on the first part they ask you to answer some truthful questions which are mostly your own opinions and cares, and lets just say I really didn't want to do linguistics because that doesn't seem, how do I say, exciting to me. Seems like the sort of stuff I do at home, computers, technical work, reading, learning, puzzles, etc.

I enlisted to go have adventures and get out of the rut my life has become. I trained my ass off, alone, I have no friends in NorCal, except my girl and daughter, and a bench, and a lot of motivation to go from 250lbs at age 25, smoking like a chimney and drinking like a fish, to 148 lean pounds and hardly drink (still smoke though).

Then I went to the office, met my recruiter, and said I wanted to be a marine. Was sent to MEPs two days later, sworn in after all the stuff, and shipping soon. Never asked or coddled into learning about an MOS, since pretty much I wanted infantry but all day I kept getting asked by the staff "With scores like yours, why do you want infantry?"

I found out about open contract and then a day later my recruiter called, told me to go to MEPS for the DLAB and I could snag a 15k enlistment bonus. I didn't join the Marines for the money, but I also didn't really want to learn a foreign language. I went and took the test, and even though I didn't care, I still felt kind of bad to have done so terrible. If I wanted money, I would have went Army.

Anyhow, I do PT days now until my ship date. I can keep up like a champ with the 17-22 year old young men, even though some are way fitter, maybe just younger. And a very motivated young lady who pretty much is the only fem in my pool who I respect. I suffer through the more overweight young men aged 17-25 in my PT pool and the weaker young women to catch up with us in runs by doing push ups at stop lights and all sorts or crud that makes me fearfully understanding of the platoon blanketing Pvt. Gomer Pile in FMJ.

I am not as smart as like 2 people in my PT pool (one scored 99/99 on the ASVAB and another 95) but I am not as... uneducated as the rest, lowest being a young man who is going to be doint a culinary MOS.

Don't let that fool you though. I don't settle for second best. I strive and pull myself to be better. I will be better.

But the thing is, my recruiting Sgt., he is not interested in discussing about my possible MOS choices, he is cool, but to get serious, he won't with me, he sits others down and flips through a big book of jobs and has them write down three choices. I never did that, I am shipping soon, I don't know where I am needed other than the failed linguistics option. I am just wondering if like either my recruiter is not worried about me because I am fit and smart enough for most things, or if like maybe I need to make a more concentrated effort to talk to him about a MOS. I tried once, he said "Connolly, what's wrong? You got a ship date? Ya. What's up? Nothing sir, just.. Good to go? Good to go...."

I mean, I don't know what to do other than go sign my contract for whatever on ship day and take off. I want to know about the BAH for my daughter for one thing. I also want to do lasik out of boot in December since I get 10 days and the holidays before MCT. Other than that, I am good to go. Still, makes me feel sort of floating around. Even though pretty much the highlight of my week is my two PT days, I always feel like they are very coddling to the weaker guys and the slower guys, and I feel dusted, being that I just want to ask a couple serious questions and not be coddled or talked to like a moron. Maybe that's just the way though lol. And on the day before ship, I will probably end up finding out everything in a 2 hour chat. That would make me happy though.

Anyone know what is going on or have an opinion or similar experience as a poolie?

USMC_8156
08-29-2008, 08:03 AM
Sounds like you are a done deal to your recruiter. You are both motivated and enlisted, which means you are a guaranteed ship. With your age and physical condition, no doubt you'll do fine in boot camp. But this means he doesn't really have to sell you any more.

Don't take that BS Recruiter treatment. You are not a Marine yet, you are not even under the UCMJ yet. He can't tell you what to do any more than your father can. Tell him you want an MOS nailed down, and that's that. You don't have to threaten, but his job is to make sure you ship out, and tell him that you aren't leaving until you are satisfied everything is in order.

That whole "Oh, you should want to be a Marine before anything else..." Well, yeah, but to hell with that if you are going to spend 4 years busting rust when you have the opportunity with your test scores to do something you love AND be a Marine. So go in there and tell him what's going to happen. He won't blow you off, and don't let him try to "order" you to do anything.

Oh...and as for the "culinary" thing...someone's going to have a coronary...

em2style
08-29-2008, 08:10 AM
If all you want is to be in the Corps, then go open contract. But it sounds to me like you do have some common sense. Tell your recruiter that you DO NOT want an open contract. unless you want that chance of becoming a cook or something like that. Your best to find a MOS that you would enjoy. And by the way, ill give you the heads up that i was never given. Just because you signed the contract to be in, its not binding until you graduate boot camp. So if your recruiter tells you he's not wanting to go over MOS's with you or something like that, tell him your walking. Tell him he doesnt want to help you, he can tear up your current contract and your backing out. He'll show you the MOS's then because he needs numbers enlisted.

SSgtAllen3381
08-29-2008, 07:05 PM
When you are doing push ups and waiting on the "slow and fat recruits" go back and PICK THEM UP. Go motivate them and show them that YOU CARE. It's obvious you want to be a Marine..being a Marine is more than just being in shape. Though there are some out there that think different.

As for the cook comment above, I would usually argue that point. BUT, the way our MOS is today...DO NOT GO OPEN CONTRACT.

I went open contract after being told by my Recruiter, my step dad (MGySgt) and my brother (Lcpl at the time) DO NOT GO OPEN CONTRACT. I stood my ground, went to Boot Camp, MCT and found out that I was going to be a Cook. I WAS P!$$ED, but, I took it like a man and stayed in this MOS. I loved it and I mean that to the fullest. Due to downsizing of our MOS and the migration of another MOS... it sucks now.

SO POOLIE CONNOLLY, PLEASE!!!! DO NOT GO OPEN CONTRACT.

Poolie Connolly
08-29-2008, 09:08 PM
Thanks all for the input.

To answer why I don't go back and help the guys and girls is because I was told to stay in line with the guide. The daily squad leaders (senior poolies who have been in the longest I guess) usually aren't trying to push us or push with us, they go pull the weaker up from behind, so they aren't just left. Sometimes they have to take the guys back to the office.

I mean, I haven't been doing this long since I am new to the DEP, and shipping soon anyhow, but we were told to push the guy in front of us if he started walking and not keeping his feet up and moving. Hahah, a guy took that literally and shoved the person in front and he went down hard on the sidewalk. I didn't really understand why the guy looked so sad about it when told to push him, but then it clicked, the squad leaders meant to push with their name and positive feeling, not shove the guy.

I laughed so hard when I got home, but I felt bad not only for the fallen guy, but the guy who shoved him because he must have felt like a total jerk. Most I did was pat the shoulder in front of me and say "c'mon man, push" and also got that in return, so I am glad that poolie was not behind me haha.

I tell ya though, I am not a runner, but I can push myself, and when we get done and start drills and such, it's a lot of fun, especially "Incoming" sprint relays where you have to drop every time a squad leader yells incoming and do 5 push ups and keep running, otherwise you are dead and your relay partner has to bear crawl you back to the line. I didn't have to but two guys had to be bad ass in the 5 pull up, 10 push up, 15 squat sets (keep just rotating those until you drop) did.

Me and my partner did 4 sets, almost all of us did. Those guys did 9, then they bitched and moaned about the relays and kept "dieing" and getting yelled at. They said it was BS that the shipping squad leader was making us do a two hour PT when it should have been only an hour, and blah blah. I was just glad I conserved some energy after that initial rotating set right after running. I also loved the run back. Singing cadence was fun as hell. I get to just yell as loud as I can and get props for it instead of police sirens coming (usually I "sound off" a bit when I had a little too much to drink haha).

Anyhow, word from my recruiter today is that they need numbers on Tue. due to losing 7 or so on the week due to not meeting ptr, bailing out, or not finishing certain educational goals in time for ship. and want me to ship on Tue. if I can square away my family stuff this weekend (daughter and bills and such) and they want to offer me a nice early ship bonus since they know I need the money having a kid and all, and it's not a small sum, so I am doing it for sure. She needs a good Christmas after having 5 of them that weren't very good. I love my lil girl.

So thanks for the input. My recruiter says also he is going to ensure I choose a MOS that I want to do before getting to San Jose, so I did hit him up about it and my concerns. Also he told me my BAH (BHA?) starts the moment I enter boot, but that I can really only have it direct deposit and can't worry too much about finance and stuff. I can talk to my DI in boot he said and get it dd into my joint account so my old lady can use it for my daughter while away. She is nonexistent as far as the military is concerned though, since we aren't married, and it caused some probs on enlistment with affidavits and notaries and such, so I just only talk about my daughter now, I apparently bore her from my skull like Zeus, and that's fine with them, so long as I don;t complicate stuff anymore with my tall tales about how people have kids out of wedlock and still cohabitate and such nonsense :P

Everything is square and now am looking at three choices. Bravo-Yankee seems most up my alley from my life experiences and love of computers and such. Also chose communications and logistics as second and third respectively.

em2style
09-01-2008, 05:43 PM
When you are doing push ups and waiting on the "slow and fat recruits" go back and PICK THEM UP. Go motivate them and show them that YOU CARE. It's obvious you want to be a Marine..being a Marine is more than just being in shape. Though there are some out there that think different.

As for the cook comment above, I would usually argue that point. BUT, the way our MOS is today...DO NOT GO OPEN CONTRACT.

I went open contract after being told by my Recruiter, my step dad (MGySgt) and my brother (Lcpl at the time) DO NOT GO OPEN CONTRACT. I stood my ground, went to Boot Camp, MCT and found out that I was going to be a Cook. I WAS P!$$ED, but, I took it like a man and stayed in this MOS. I loved it and I mean that to the fullest. Due to downsizing of our MOS and the migration of another MOS... it sucks now.

SO POOLIE CONNOLLY, PLEASE!!!! DO NOT GO OPEN CONTRACT.

just wanted to let you know i didnt mean any disrespect by saying ending up a cook on open contract was bad or anything. like you said, when u first got that MOS u were pissed. A few of my friends are the same way. I studied to be a chef for 4 years of high school, even tho its not the same as a military cook, but still.

SSgtAllen3381
09-02-2008, 01:22 AM
em2, no problem, I know the "cook" is always thrown out as an insult or to make a point about something negative. But, you are right, I was p!$$ed and wanted him to know how I felt, since I seem to be the only "cook" on this message board that will admit it. :)

It's not a bad gig, but it's just not the same anymore, and I hope you enjoyed your time in the Culinary field. Hell, I even have my Associates in Restaurant and Culinary Mgt, and have no plans after retirement to put it to use; after this mess in the Corps.

Take care.

NeWSoldiEr08
09-06-2008, 12:49 PM
em2, no problem, I know the "cook" is always thrown out as an insult or to make a point about something negative. But, you are right, I was p!$$ed and wanted him to know how I felt, since I seem to be the only "cook" on this message board that will admit it. :)

It's not a bad gig, but it's just not the same anymore, and I hope you enjoyed your time in the Culinary field. Hell, I even have my Associates in Restaurant and Culinary Mgt, and have no plans after retirement to put it to use; after this mess in the Corps.

Take care.

least you dont have civies cookin up crappy meals like the army does :(

SSgtAllen3381
09-08-2008, 02:00 AM
least you dont have civies cookin up crappy meals like the army does :(

Most of our Chow Hall are totally civilian operated. So, yes, we have civilians cooking for the Marine Corps.

Snoop_Frogg
02-03-2009, 07:56 PM
And in some cases...it may be crappy...but that's usually what happens when you have mass produced food like that...unless you're in iraq or twentynine palms or somethin. Oh...be a radio operator youngblood...you can go anywhere from there.