Imagery Analysis Retrain

[philmacjr]

Originally Posted by Lt Bullitt

Things just keep getting worse on some of the news.

Hey man yeah my cancellatiion RIP was turned in last week. I continue to pursue answers but it doesn't look like all of us will be there by even January. Keep me updated on your situation, I have since ceased out processing.

[Lt Bullitt]

Originally Posted by philmacjr

Hey man yeah my cancellatiion RIP was turned in last week. I continue to pursue answers but it doesn't look like all of us will be there by even January. Keep me updated on your situation, I have since ceased out processing.

Yeah... just spoke to AFPC and my MPF about all this. My Cancelation RIP hasn't pushed through yet but that I need to stop my out processing. They gave me the number to retraining as well. So... I'll call them up Monday if I don't get a voice to call me first. This sucks... time to buy a six pack and head to the house.

[philmacjr]

Originally Posted by Lt Bullitt

Yeah... just spoke to AFPC and my MPF about all this. My Cancelation RIP hasn't pushed through yet but that I need to stop my out processing. They gave me the number to retraining as well. So... I'll call them up Monday if I don't get a voice to call me first. This sucks... time to buy a six pack and head to the house.

Haha I hear ya, this shit is getting frustrating.

[leaveit2josh]

Originally Posted by Lt Bullitt

Yeah... just spoke to AFPC and my MPF about all this. My Cancelation RIP hasn't pushed through yet but that I need to stop my out processing. They gave me the number to retraining as well. So... I'll call them up Monday if I don't get a voice to call me first. This sucks... time to buy a six pack and head to the house.

Can you post the number to Retraining? Maybe if enough of us call and bitch...

[Soundhound]

So I was in contact with AFPC and the school house today, and this is what i learned. First things first, finding someone who actually knows their job, or doesn't pawn it on another section in the MPF, is like finding out Brian J Pharris isn't a pompous ass-munch...Not gonna happen.

But anyway, I contacted the training manager for the 315th and he told me that the 1n1 course had been split into two different courses: The 17 academic day X3AQR1N131A00AA Geospatial-Intelligence Analyst Fundamentals course, and the 83 academic day X3ABR1N131AOOAA Geospatial-Intelligence Analyst course. With no break in between courses, which make it a PCS. I guess all 1n1's will go through the first course and then we split into our A, and B shreds for the next then go our separate ways.

Here is the tricky part. So don't panic Ok! When I talked to AFPC they said the new course codes had not been loaded as of today, but they must have gotten an order to cancel the old courses...hence the rescheduling limbo identifier (8). What's more troubling is that MILPDS requires them to, in effect cancel the retraining action. It was explained to me like this. The way the system sees us is, if there is no course code to load us under...then there is no course to put us in...if there is no course to put us in, then there is no retraining action to be had. So they have to take us out of retraining status...to put us into retraining status.( Military bureaucracy...i love it!!) This is why Lt was told not to out process. The system shows no retaining course loaded in his profile so they can't and won't cut orders. The worst is that no one talks to anyone, they( MPF) just sit and wait to be notified by AFPC.

The school house said that the course realignment shouldn't affect our class dates. But this was before i spoke with AFPC. So someone needs to load the damned codes and it should iron things out. As for retraining, formal training and outbound, they wouldn't know their Brian J Pharris from a hole in the wall. So don't waste your time. The only thing they can do is cut your orders.

Lastly, I had my UTM call the AFSOC 1n1 functional to see what can be done on this end...maybe they can call the AFPC functional and let him or her know what a stinking mess this is. I hope this helps
Later Gators!

[leaveit2josh]

Originally Posted by Soundhound

So I was in contact with AFPC and the school house today, and this is what i learned. First things first, finding someone who actually knows their job, or doesn't pawn it on another section in the MPF, is like finding out Brian J Pharris isn't a pompous ass-munch...Not gonna happen.

But anyway, I contacted the training manager for the 315th and he told me that the 1n1 course had been split into two different courses: The 17 academic day X3AQR1N131A00AA Geospatial-Intelligence Analyst Fundamentals course, and the 83 academic day X3ABR1N131AOOAA Geospatial-Intelligence Analyst course. With no break in between courses, which make it a PCS. I guess all 1n1's will go through the first course and then we split into our A, and B shreds for the next then go our separate ways.

Here is the tricky part. So don't panic Ok! When I talked to AFPC they said the new course codes had not been loaded as of today, but they must have gotten an order to cancel the old courses...hence the rescheduling limbo identifier (8). What's more troubling is that MILPDS requires them to, in effect cancel the retraining action. It was explained to me like this. The way the system sees us is, if there is no course code to load us under...then there is no course to put us in...if there is no course to put us in, then there is no retraining action to be had. So they have to take us out of retraining status...to put us into retraining status.( Military bureaucracy...i love it!!) This is why Lt was told not to out process. The system shows no retaining course loaded in his profile so they can't and won't cut orders. The worst is that no one talks to anyone, they( MPF) just sit and wait to be notified by AFPC.

The school house said that the course realignment shouldn't affect our class dates. But this was before i spoke with AFPC. So someone needs to load the damned codes and it should iron things out. As for retraining, formal training and outbound, they wouldn't know their Brian J Pharris from a hole in the wall. So don't waste your time. The only thing they can do is cut your orders.

Lastly, I had my UTM call the AFSOC 1n1 functional to see what can be done on this end...maybe they can call the AFPC functional and let him or her know what a stinking mess this is. I hope this helps
Later Gators!

Thanks for doing the digging (and succeeding). It doesn't sound as bad anymore, so long as the wrinkles, do in fact, get ironed out.

Thanks again for sharing.

[Endless Joe]

Not sure if anyone has posted this link, but go to http://www.familysupportgoodfellow.org/ to find out all the info you need on pcsing to Goodfellow. Not sure, but I think y'all in the new course may be coming in TDY status but am not sure. There is also info on BAH waivers and all kinds of good info.

[Endless Joe]

Originally Posted by jnun

Does this thech school have 3 day weekends, every other weekend like Keesler, or is it 5 days a week like Sheppard? Hopefully my class will get pushed up from June since the classes are unbalanced like they are. i'm ready to get started.

Lol, it's like Sheppard, 5 day weeks. 3 day weekends, that's funny

[Endless Joe]

Originally Posted by BigBrownEyes

I graduated the course earlier this month, and for your BAH waiver question, be careful. When we had our finance briefing, they said BAH waiver was a no-go for those with civilian spouses because they could have joined you, as it was an accompanied pcs. That was the same for familly sep. If you're mil-mil, then you're fine. You should talk to finance at your home station so you can plan accordingly. This may have changed but we had a few people get screwed b/c of it. Your best bet is to prob move off base w/ a roomie and collect your BAH.

This information is partially incorrect. Yes, it is voluntary for your spouse to stay behind, however if she does for whatever reason, in my case, my mortgage, all you have to do is get 3-4 letters signed by various people and turn it in. You just can't ship anything via TMO and you must live in the dorms and be on meal card. I believe it's easier for Guard members seeing as they do that before they leave. Active Duty may have to wait to do it until they arrive here at Goodfellow, but it never hurts to ask your local "friendly" finance office :p

Family sep, however, is a definite no go... sorry

[ChickensAreEverywhere]

I just talked to my finance section. I am ANG to give you a basis. My flight chief said it was now a TDY. This means that for us, we get active duty pay, BAH to our HOR, BAS AND FAMILY SEPARATION and then we also get per diem to cover lodging, food and incidentals. I suspect that active duty folks will be looking a getting orders to their next base for their new AFSC with a TDY in route for training... if I remember the process correctly.. or is it PCS to school with a follow-on to the new location?

I can't wait to get my school date... so close, sometime between mid-Jan and mid-Feb my security clearance should get approved.