Ousted Minot commander won’t retire

[BISSBOSS]

Originally Posted by takthekak

Well then, perhaps they should fire everyone in both Wings up here. Every base
has things happen, we are just under the microscope. Lastly, I have not been here 10 straight
years, ithere was a Joint assignment for 3 1/2 years in between and then I have also been in both
Wings here...I think the fact that the "old Wing CC" is taking an assignment at HQs, proves my point.

Rather a rosy take on the events as reported don't you think?

I think that the 29th AF/CC has fired everyone he held responsible for the collection of things that have happened... The articles gave no information that both Wings were at fault. That you guys are under the microscope underscores the atmosphere in the AF at this particular time. The personnel in the Wing(s) should realize more than ever that mistakes and lapses in judgment are a REALLY bad thing in the Nuclear Enterprise.

If ANYBODY should be doing it right - Minot should! I do agree that the Wing-king is "Taking one for the team"... The "Team" let him (and the USAF) down... Again. The "Shit Happens" attitude if prevalent across the entire Wing may be part of the problem.

He was fired. He is not "taking a job" he has decided to accept a move in lieu if retirement. What point does that prove?

-BB-

[takthekak]

Originally Posted by BISSBOSS

Rather a rosy take on the events as reported don't you think?

I think that the 29th AF/CC has fired everyone he held responsible for the collection of things that have happened... The articles gave no information that both Wings were at fault. That you guys are under the microscope underscores the atmosphere in the AF at this particular time. The personnel in the Wing(s) should realize more than ever that mistakes and lapses in judgment are a REALLY bad thing in the Nuclear Enterprise.

If ANYBODY should be doing it right - Minot should! I do agree that the Wing-king is "Taking one for the team"... The "Team" let him (and the USAF) down... Again. The "Shit Happens" attitude if prevalent across the entire Wing may be part of the problem.

He was fired. He is not "taking a job" he has decided to accept a move in lieu if retirement. What point does that prove?

-BB-

Well I believe if they trully lost confidence in him, he would be retiring by suggestion. I guess ultimately
I am just still pissed off that they fired good Commanders. What I mean by "shit happens" is like saying a base fixed the DUI problem. People make individual stupid decisions. Every base goes through ups and downs, but they don't fire everyone during the bad times. I wish all 3 that were moved, all the best.

[anamericansoldier]

Originally Posted by BISSBOSS

Two truck crashes
Sleeping missle crew
Airman leaves a safe open overnight
Tanked NSI

Kind of a long list of coincidences to be just "shit happening"...

-BB-

He was the airman that left the safe open overnight...

[Combat correspondent]

Originally Posted by takthekak

I have been at Minot for 10 years total. There is no problem here, Basically it's just that
Shit happens.

Shit happens? Is this a joke?

The American people - strike that ... the people of this planet deserve responsibility when it comes to a nuclear arsenal. Shit happens.......you are a real piece of work.

[Slap]

lol at shit happens

i can see a JTAC making a mistake and hitting civilians "well sir you know shit happens"

or finance jacking up your pay "sorry shit happens"

or a pilot forgetting one critical item on a checklist resulting in a mishap "shit happens ya know"

wow. just wow.

[takthekak]

Originally Posted by Combat correspondent

Shit happens? Is this a joke?

The American people - strike that ... the people of this planet deserve responsibility when it comes to a nuclear arsenal. Shit happens.......you are a real piece of work.

Sarcasm and dry humor do not get picked up on easily on a forum...

[Measure Man]

Originally Posted by CommunityEditor

[i]Col. Christopher Ayres, the former 91st Missile Wing commander at Minot Air Force Base, N.D., who was fired on Oct. 14, will accept an assignment to Air Force Space Command headquarters at Peterson Air Force Base, Col., and not retire.

Good for him!

[anamericansoldier]

Originally Posted by takthekak

Sarcasm and dry humor do not get picked up on easily on a forum...

Too bad that your post contained neither of those. I'm sure that was you honest assessment of the way things were being run up there.

[midway]

headline should've said "Ousted Minot Commander Won't Immediately Retire". I'm sure within a year he'll be putting his papers in. It's not like he has any hope of making BG.

[Measure Man]

Originally Posted by midway

headline should've said "Ousted Minot Commander Won't Immediately Retire". I'm sure within a year he'll be putting his papers in. It's not like he has any hope of making BG.

Most Colonel's have no hope of making BGen.

Perhaps he'll continue to serve until...well, it's a good time for him and his family to retire.

I don't know the man...but, I don't think this should alter his life plans too much...he's no doubt given a lot to the AF and country.