Intelligence MOS?

[CplVelociraptor]

Originally Posted by NRTrackChamp2004

you're not gonna be able to start out in counter-intel. You have to be a Sgt or above to do counter-intel. Its something you'll have to lat move into once you're in. The only MOS's available to you as an entry level MOS are your basic intel specialist (0231) and then geological intel specialist (0261).

Mostly correct. You must be a corporal to lat move into the counter-intel field, not a sergeant. There are many different kinds of intel work, spanning the 0200, and 2600 MOS fields. The two 0200 fields cited in the above quote are the only one's available upon enlistment. In the 2600 field, you may choose between 2621, 31 (although it's being phased out), 2651, or 2671,73,74,76 (all language based MOSs) However, when you submit your papers, you will most likely be selected an MOS in the intel realm based upon your GT score, which is the most important in the intel community. For most 0200 fields you will need above a 100, or 110, and for 2600 fields you will need at least a 115, I believe.

You can lat move into counter-intel from ANY MOS, as long as you meet the qualifications. Once you're ready to start the process, you'll most likely talk to the senior CI Marine on deck, and he will screen you. After that you'll talk to the SSO at your location and get a SCINS Interview done, which will determine whether or not you are "worth" the time to get an SSBI done, which is the investigation that yields Top Secret/Sensitive Comparted Information clearance eligibility. If all of that goes well, than you will probably take a DLAB, and be put on a counter-intel board where you'll be interviewed by several counter-intel Marines, and they will assess your competence for a program like CI. After that you'll attend MOS school, and from what I understand it has the second highest attrition rate in Marine Corps schools, right behind the band.

Your job, if you make it through the pipeline, will vary depending upon your location. I'm not sure why someone said it's not discussable on an open forum, because you can easily look up that kind of stuff on Wikipedia. The job title speaks for itself, though, Counter...Intelligence. You are countering adversaries intelligence methods.

If you are curious as to the credentials of my knowledge, I am a corporal in the 2651 MOS, and have been in for 3 1/2 years. I am currently deployed, and spent a great deal of time not only talking to our Staff CI, but also doing the SCINS for some of the individuals interested in lat moving.

[Hero]

To get an idea of what Intel does, a book by Dr. Jeffrey Richelson is a good one-volume account.

Jeff Richelson’s U.S. Intelligence Community
August 13th, 2007 by Steven Aftergood

For decades now “The U.S. Intelligence Community” by Jeffrey T. Richelson has been the best one-volume account of the structure and operation of the far-flung U.S. intelligence bureaucracy. The fifth edition has just been published.

When I encounter an unfamiliar intelligence term, an odd acronym or a reference to an obscure office somewhere in the bowels of U.S. intelligence, I find that Richelson’s book more often than not — more often than Google — provides the explanation and the needed background, typically with a footnote to an official source.

The latest edition includes new material on homeland security intelligence, detainee interrogation, and other post-9/11 developments.

“The U.S. Intelligence Community” by Jeffrey T. Richelson, 5th edition, is published by Westview Press.

Source: http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007...telligenc.html

[xavier2484]

Originally Posted by CplVelociraptor

Mostly correct. You must be a corporal to lat move into the counter-intel field, not a sergeant. There are many different kinds of intel work, spanning the 0200, and 2600 MOS fields. The two 0200 fields cited in the above quote are the only one's available upon enlistment. In the 2600 field, you may choose between 2621, 31 (although it's being phased out), 2651, or 2671,73,74,76 (all language based MOSs) However, when you submit your papers, you will most likely be selected an MOS in the intel realm based upon your GT score, which is the most important in the intel community. For most 0200 fields you will need above a 100, or 110, and for 2600 fields you will need at least a 115, I believe.

You can lat move into counter-intel from ANY MOS, as long as you meet the qualifications. Once you're ready to start the process, you'll most likely talk to the senior CI Marine on deck, and he will screen you. After that you'll talk to the SSO at your location and get a SCINS Interview done, which will determine whether or not you are "worth" the time to get an SSBI done, which is the investigation that yields Top Secret/Sensitive Comparted Information clearance eligibility. If all of that goes well, than you will probably take a DLAB, and be put on a counter-intel board where you'll be interviewed by several counter-intel Marines, and they will assess your competence for a program like CI. After that you'll attend MOS school, and from what I understand it has the second highest attrition rate in Marine Corps schools, right behind the band.

Your job, if you make it through the pipeline, will vary depending upon your location. I'm not sure why someone said it's not discussable on an open forum, because you can easily look up that kind of stuff on Wikipedia. The job title speaks for itself, though, Counter...Intelligence. You are countering adversaries intelligence methods.

If you are curious as to the credentials of my knowledge, I am a corporal in the 2651 MOS, and have been in for 3 1/2 years. I am currently deployed, and spent a great deal of time not only talking to our Staff CI, but also doing the SCINS for some of the individuals interested in lat moving.

thanks for all the helpful information! what are some of the things a basic intel specialist does?? and dont you need a Top secret clearance for a basic intel position?

[CplB]

You need a TS/SCI for any intel position

[xavier2484]

ok.. to get into counter intel do you have to learn another language? or can u get into counter intel without going to a defensive language school?

[CplVelociraptor]

Originally Posted by xavier2484

ok.. to get into counter intel do you have to learn another language? or can u get into counter intel without going to a defensive language school?

I'm not sure about that, I know that it is most likely encouraged, especially considering the individuals we're performing counter-intel against. However, I doubt it is mandatory, since the GySgt I am referring to in my post went to the school and learned Mandarin.

Depending on where you're located, ground side or air side, or if you're at a special command like MARCENT, you'll be doing a variety of different things. Some intel specialists operate in the field on a regular basis as collectors, others perform more of a desk job and are definitively analysts who look at reports, attacks, and other information and determine it's pertinence to the Marine Corps mission. Analysts, regardless of where they are located and what they are doing, do a very important job. They prevent casualties, and provide Marines on the ground information that gives them a significant advantage.

[xavier2484]

thanks alot for all the help.. now not trying to get to far ahead of myself. but just outta of curiosity what kinda of jobs would a intel mos get you in a civilian word? or is INTEL just something that is useful in the Military?' i havent heard of to many intel jobs in the civilian world?

[kenny10]

Originally Posted by xavier2484

thanks alot for all the help.. now not trying to get to far ahead of myself. but just outta of curiosity what kinda of jobs would a intel mos get you in a civilian word? or is INTEL just something that is useful in the Military?' i havent heard of to many intel jobs in the civilian world?

oh jesus christ seriously? Intelligence is in the civilian world as well, if you have a clearance and get out with a clearance you can pretty much get a job ANYWHERE...........I'm a blunt person and seriously if you are that dumb and you don't know that intel jobs are used in the civilian world then PLEASE STAY THE HELL OUT OF THE INTELLIGENCE FIELD, we don't need anymore dummies.
CIA,FBI, GOOGLE IT .................holy shit you already suck

[CplB]

I don't think you should go intel, clearly you are unable to use google, and don't have any idea on how to do basic research which is a necessity.

[xavier2484]

no i have done research and i am aware of the CIA and FBI and other federal jobs but i dont have a bachelors degree yet? i thought u needed one for more or all federal jobs?