“OK, maybe I have a problem with war crimes on this team."

For the next few Defense Nerds Podcast episodes, Military Times Deputy Editor Leo Shane and Defense News Capitol Hill Bureau Chief Joe Gould take a break from the normal news format for a bit of summer nonsense: fantasy drafts on military topics.

Up this week, the hosts name their picks for a new Joint Chiefs of Staff made up of characters from popular television shows. They’re joined by Defense News Senior Pentagon Correspondent Aaron Mehta, who goes heavy on space experience for his team. Joe takes some deep-cut intellectuals while Leo ignores his team’s obvious human rights issues.

Listen here:

And help decide a winner by voting in the Twitter poll below:

Joe’s Team: Ben Sisko (Deep Space Nine), Percy Fitzwallace (West Wing), Sherlock Holmes (Sherlock), Dick Winter (Band of Brothers)

Leo’s team: Jack Bauer (24), The Night King (Game of Thrones), Jean-Luc Picard (Star Trek), Mitch Buchannon (Baywatch)

Aaron’s team: William Adama (Battlestar Galactica), Adm. Ackbar (Star Wars Rebels), Thrawn (Star Wars Rebels), Hawk (GI Joe)

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Leo covers Congress, Veterans Affairs and the White House for Military Times. He has covered Washington, D.C. since 2004, focusing on military personnel and veterans policies. His work has earned numerous honors, including a 2009 Polk award, a 2010 National Headliner Award, the IAVA Leadership in Journalism award and the VFW News Media award.

Joe Gould was the senior Pentagon reporter for Defense News, covering the intersection of national security policy, politics and the defense industry. He had previously served as Congress reporter.

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