“You’ll never guess why critics are upset with the president this week ... Yes, it’s the wall again."

On this episode of the Political Fallout Shelter podcast, Military Times Deputy Editor Leo Shane and Defense News Capitol Hill Bureau Chief Joe Gould discuss President Donald Trump’s latest threat to deploy more troops to the southern border in coming months. About 5,000 service members are already there, but the commander-in-chief says more are needed because he has been unable to get the funding for his controversial border wall project.

The two also discuss the schedule for the annual defense authorization bill debate and what exactly happened with the House budget vote last week. Finally, the two vent about their biggest complaint with “Game of Thrones”: not enough talk about the seven kingdoms’ defense acquisition process.

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Leo covers Congress, Veterans Affairs and the White House for Military Times. He has covered Washington, D.C. since 2004, focusing on military personnel and veterans policies. His work has earned numerous honors, including a 2009 Polk award, a 2010 National Headliner Award, the IAVA Leadership in Journalism award and the VFW News Media award.

Joe Gould was the senior Pentagon reporter for Defense News, covering the intersection of national security policy, politics and the defense industry. He had previously served as Congress reporter.

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