“In the military, you’re not allowed to take any drugs."

On this week’s Defense Nerds Podcast, Military Times Deputy Editor Leo Shane and Defense News Capitol Hill Bureau Chief Joe Gould are joined by Defense News Weekly host Jeff Martin to talk about nuclear weapons and the congressional fight over them (luckily, that fight does not involve use of nuclear weapons).

They also talk about the recently signed disaster supplemental bill and President Donald Trump’s confusing comments on transgender military recruits. The group wraps up with news that troops deployed to the southern U.S. border will be tasked with painting walls, and brainstorm other household improvement projects the military could get into.

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Leo covers Congress, Veterans Affairs and the White House for Military Times. He has covered Washington, D.C. since 2004, focusing on military personnel and veterans policies. His work has earned numerous honors, including a 2009 Polk award, a 2010 National Headliner Award, the IAVA Leadership in Journalism award and the VFW News Media award.

Joe Gould was the senior Pentagon reporter for Defense News, covering the intersection of national security policy, politics and the defense industry. He had previously served as Congress reporter.

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